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  • Frank Ducketts
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    #71
    Originally posted by m4ravilla
    And beating Hernandez will?...what big fights do you see for Berto right now?...he should fight Aydin because it is his mandatory...with the big guns unavailable who do you feel he should fight?...
    His mandatory if he can't get the Pac fight, and if he gets stripped, he should fight someone considered dangerous...

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    • m4ravilla
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      #72
      Originally posted by Frank Ducketts
      People find fault in Berto wanting to face PAc, yet these same people complain that Berto doesn't fight anyone and has not fought anyone lol... Hypocrites. Maybe a win over Aydin can get Berto the multi million dollar fight that he's been looking for lol...
      Suggesting he wants Pacquiao now is speculation...I highly doubt his camp believed they would get the Pac fight so talking it up is their way of making out that Berto wants to fight the best...

      Its easy for me to speak about how much I want something when I know I'm not going to get it...but even if we are to work with the idea that Berto does indeed want a top fight then there is no use in fighting tomato cans like Hernandez and waiting for the opportunity...for the record I reckon he's pissed about Pac taking Mosley...Berto would have agreed to fighting Mosley cos as declined as Mosley is he represents a big name and is a winnable fight...

      You keep mocking the likes of Aydin, Zaveck, Dan etc...but they are the best the division has to offer outside of Floyd or Pac...if Pac and Mosley are off the table then who do you view as a legitimate opponent?...

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      • Frank Ducketts
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        #73
        Originally posted by m4ravilla
        I also suggested that Berto needs to be realistic...he has faced one good fighter in Collazo who also has no name...and now he wants to fight the big league fighters...

        The gap between both Floyd and Pac and the rest is huge...no-one is clamouring for a Pac V Berto fight...Berto doesn't have the resume and he doesnt have the fanbase to justify a fight...he is not nearly as big a name as he thinks he is...he isnt big enough to face the elite level fighters but he feels hes too big to fight the other beltholders like Zaveck even...
        It seems increasingly likely that Pac V Mosley will happen so he has turn his attention elsewhere and fight some of the guys who he views aren't on his level...in a weak division fighting the likes of Hernandez is pathetic...

        Other than Aydin what other fights do you realistically see for Berto?...
        The underlined is hypocritical. Floyd said the same thing about some fighters, and you all cried "Floyd ducks guys or Floyd is coward" lol... Right now PAc could do a lot better than fight an undefeated WBC champion with speed who is in his prime huh...gotcha!

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        • Frank Ducketts
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          #74
          Originally posted by m4ravilla
          Suggesting he wants Pacquiao now is speculation...I highly doubt his camp believed they would get the Pac fight so talking it up is their way of making out that Berto wants to fight the best...

          Its easy for me to speak about how much I want something when I know I'm not going to get it...but even if we are to work with the idea that Berto does indeed want a top fight then there is no use in fighting tomato cans like Hernandez and waiting for the opportunity...for the record I reckon he's pissed about Pac taking Mosley...Berto would have agreed to fighting Mosley cos as declined as Mosley is he represents a big name and is a winnable fight...

          You keep mocking the likes of Aydin, Zaveck, Dan etc...but they are the best the division has to offer outside of Floyd or Pac...if Pac and Mosley are off the table then who do you view as a legitimate opponent?...
          First off I don't mock anyone. I gave you Berto's point of view, not mine. Berto wants a big money fight, and a chance at greatness. He's been criticized for fighting the Hernandez's and unknown guys like a Aydin. Believe it or not...Berto thinks he can beat Pac. And for the record...fighters have a totally different outlook than fans on who they want to fight. Especially undefeated fighters lol...

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          • periks19
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            #75
            Originally posted by Frank Ducketts
            People find fault in Berto wanting to face PAc, yet these same people complain that Berto doesn't fight anyone and has not fought anyone lol... Hypocrites. Maybe a win over Aydin can get Berto the multi million dollar fight that he's been looking for lol...
            So the big win againat hernandez a non title holder should be a big reason that now pac or pbf have to face him lmaol ***** please stop with ur berto excuses he hasnt fought no one. He is an overated bearhuging boxer with a weak ass chin. Im starting to think your berto yourself because of all your post that dont make no ****ing sense or your a new generation of bertards now just like the *******s. Seriously now that berto tko hernandez there is a big demand for a pac lmaol he doesnt even have a following didnt like 5000 people saw his fight against quintana on his hometown lmaol 5000 fans on his hometown what is it gonna be next demand 50/50 for a pac fight lol get the **** out of here

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            • Frank Ducketts
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              #76
              Originally posted by periks19
              So the big win againat hernandez a non title holder should be a big reason that now pac or pbf have to face him lmaol ***** please stop with ur berto excuses he hasnt fought no one. He is an overated bearhuging boxer with a weak ass chin. Im starting to think your berto yourself because of all your post that dont make no ****ing sense or your a new generation of bertards now just like the *******s. Seriously now that berto tko hernandez there is a big demand for a pac lmaol he doesnt even have a following didnt like 5000 people saw his fight against quintana on his hometown lmaol 5000 fans on his hometown what is it gonna be next demand 50/50 for a pac fight lol get the **** out of here
              5000 people is a lot of people for a fight. Second, as bad as you think Berto is, he's undefeated. Your post is about as worthless as it gets... Get off of PAc's ****. Berto wants to fight PAc period!

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                #77
                PAc might beat Berto, but I have to see it to believe it *******s just as you *******s have to see Floyd beat PAc instead of Floydettes constantly saying Floyd beats Pac.

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                • m4ravilla
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Frank Ducketts
                  The underlined is hypocritical. Floyd said the same thing about some fighters, and you all cried "Floyd ducks guys or Floyd is coward" lol... Right now PAc could do a lot better than fight an undefeated WBC champion with speed who is in his prime huh...gotcha!
                  Hmm thats your perspective and your entitled to it...you rate Berto a lot more than I do so you see that as a legitimate fight...I don't feel hes good enough yet and don't feel his camp would be silly enough to genuinely push for it...

                  Berto V Mosley would have been a good fight to have next...that would have been a good acid test for how far he has come...

                  And that attitude Pac and the likes Floyd have is something that happens when you become a draw...the rights and wrongs of that attitude is another argument altogether...

                  Berto isnt but acts as though he is...however much you want to place him up there with the likes of Pac he is closer in achievements to the likes of Zaveck and in the absence of fights against top fighters he should either fight his mandatory or he should jump up to light middle where he might be able to make fights that make him more of a sell on the US market...he needs to build his name...his isnt a name already...

                  Cintron was calling him out lately and says he would be willing to fight at 147...this would build his name...
                  Last edited by m4ravilla; 12-06-2010, 03:14 PM.

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                  • Chief2ndzOnly!
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by xAUGUSTUSx
                    Why? he has'nt done anything. Every fight he's had has been set up for him to win. You don't just get money for nothing. Thats not how this world works. Explain why he needs the shot as you say? Does he not make any money? Is he not already well off?
                    You do understand that's exactly what a good promoter is spossed to do right? You do understand that, THAT is how Boxing works right? You move fighters along progressively if you care anything about their career. Take for example your name Augustus. If they would've moved Emanuel better, he wouldn't be you favorite fighter with double digit losses. He would undoubtedly be an elite world beater with PPV money falling from his bank accounts, everytime he checked his balance. You make some good points and display some good Boxing knowledge, dont null and void all that **** by making rediculous statements.

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                    • Pullcounter
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by onechance87
                      I have to agree with aydin.Berto should of gotten his mandatory out of
                      the way,But choose to fight a bum instead.Besides theres nothing for
                      berto anyways if manny fights mosley.
                      fighting a bum instead of his mando is pretty weak

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