Comments Thread For: Marquez Deserves The Pacquiao Fight, Not Shane Mosley

[waxfondler]

In my opinion. I truly think that Marquez has had the better
career after they fought one another the second time. Marquez
had better competition and KO'd two guys that never been KO'd
before in their entire professional careers (Casamayor and Diaz)
now he just TKO'd Katsidis. Manny match while impressive
were already predetermined. Pac took the stardom route
and Marquez took the top contender route. Marquez deserves
a 3rd fight with Pacquiao no matter how good they think Pac
is over JMM but we don't know because Manny had ready made
fights and JMM was being tested. They might meet a 3rd time
and Marquez found the piece to the puzzle to finally get the
win over Manny BUT Manny could prove too much for JMM
and beat him quick. Who knows? All I know is that if Manny
is not interested in fighting JMM, then that must mean, he is
not as shot as some of you posters on here think. That and
the fact that Arum doesn't want to deal with Golden Boy gives
Manny an excuse to not fight JMM. Out of the 3, JMM deserves
it the most. Manny never bested Marquez and should be looking
to settle the score.

agree, jmm deserves it... but doubt it will happen. and doubt it will be anything but a mismatch @ above 140... jmm could still time & counter pac, but his punches wont have effect.... although i agree jmm is FAR FROM being faded, his past fights were against fighters tailored to his style (a la pac/floyd)...

as for career, jmm & pac are close... jmm had solid wins against decent opponents:
• casamayor (solid, but faded, IMO)
• diaz (never liked this dude)
• kats (tough, but easily outclassed)
but i do appreciate the fight of the years he put on

pac's career was a bit more impressive... just imagine if marquez had victories over oscar/hatton/cotto/clottey/margs??? IMO, the only REAL threat was cotto... arguments can be made regarding them being faded/drained/etc, but i appreciate pac's performances... floyds fights were ALWAYS predetermined but i appreciate floyd's technical display... but we know how pac wouldve killed those dudes jmm beat... but we cant say the same for jmm regarding pac's opponents...

JMM is the man, but we cant ignore his limitations.

[waxfondler]

Marquez has never beat a elite fighter. Marquez has never been a PPV draw.

Mosley has beat elite fighters. Mosley has been a PPV draw.

Pacquiao already has Marquez on his resume. Twice. If he fights Mosley he will get a HOFer on his resume and a bigger payday. Anytime you can improve your legacy and get a bigger payday the decision is easy.

Marquez is a bum, he doesn't even deserve to drink Pacquiaos piss

no buddy, jmm is no bum.... if barrerra & morales are considered future HOF-ers, jmm is easily surpassing them by now. after jmm decided to be more fan-friendly, he really started to shine compared to the other mexicans. jmm is technically on another level compared to them.

jmm's resume isnt that great (regarding "elite" fighters), but he put on boxing clinics against SOLID opponents... fight of the year 2009 & possibly 2010 is something to be proud of too.

i think the thought of jmm/pac III is good, but i think it would be a huge favor for pac to give him the fight...ESPECIALLY anywhere below 147. jmm "deserves" to be pac's next fight... but @ 147, it becomes clear jmm just wants another big payday.

on paper, adding shane to his resume would be nice... but after floyd shined the light on how faded shane is, a pac/shane fight would be meaningless (ESPECIALLY after the mora fight)... i wouldve loved to see shane/berto, then winner fights pac.

[LeadUppercut]

Marquez has never beat a elite fighter. Marquez has never been a PPV draw.

Mosley has beat elite fighters. Mosley has been a PPV draw.

Pacquiao already has Marquez on his resume. Twice. If he fights Mosley he will get a HOFer on his resume and a bigger payday. Anytime you can improve your legacy and get a bigger payday the decision is easy.

Marquez is a bum, he doesn't even deserve to drink Pacquiaos piss

I prefer Manny to fight Mosley instead of Marquez. Because that coward Manny is too scared to fight Marquez at a fair weight, that b1tch wants to drag Marquez up two divisions, even though he can easily make 140.

" Marquez has never beat a elite fighter "

1.) Marquez beat Manny at least once, in the second fight

2.) Pacquiao "padded" Pacquiao could not even beat a 35yo, past-prime Marquez, who was fighting above his career-long best weight.

What a fkn joke that b1tch Manny is, I can see why a lot of his fan's are also whiney b1tches.

[LeadUppercut]

In my opinion. I truly think that Marquez has had the better
career after they fought one another the second time. Marquez
had better competition and KO'd two guys that never been KO'd
before in their entire professional careers (Casamayor and Diaz)
now he just TKO'd Katsidis. Manny match while impressive
were already predetermined. Pac took the stardom route
and Marquez took the top contender route. Marquez deserves
a 3rd fight with Pacquiao no matter how good they think Pac
is over JMM but we don't know because Manny had ready made
fights and JMM was being tested. They might meet a 3rd time
and Marquez found the piece to the puzzle to finally get the
win over Manny BUT Manny could prove too much for JMM
and beat him quick. Who knows? All I know is that if Manny
is not interested in fighting JMM, then that must mean, he is
not as shot as some of you posters on here think. That and
the fact that Arum doesn't want to deal with Golden Boy gives
Manny an excuse to not fight JMM. Out of the 3, JMM deserves
it the most. Manny never bested Marquez and should be looking
to settle the score.

JMM is hands down, a better fighter than Pacquiao will ever be, and Marquez doesn't need to take steroids.

[GRUSTLER]

agree, jmm deserves it... but doubt it will happen. and doubt it will be anything but a mismatch @ above 140... jmm could still time & counter pac, but his punches wont have effect.... although i agree jmm is FAR FROM being faded, his past fights were against fighters tailored to his style (a la pac/floyd)...

as for career, jmm & pac are close... jmm had solid wins against decent opponents:
• casamayor (solid, but faded, IMO)
• diaz (never liked this dude)
• kats (tough, but easily outclassed)
but i do appreciate the fight of the years he put on

pac's career was a bit more impressive... just imagine if marquez had victories over oscar/hatton/cotto/clottey/margs??? IMO, the only REAL threat was cotto... arguments can be made regarding them being faded/drained/etc, but i appreciate pac's performances... floyds fights were ALWAYS predetermined but i appreciate floyd's technical display... but we know how pac wouldve killed those dudes jmm beat... but we cant say the same for jmm regarding pac's opponents...

JMM is the man, but we cant ignore his limitations.

How do we know that, when Manny Pacquiao fought the weakest
champ at 135, then left? Nobody really knows, but I think Marquez
staying in one division and holding down the top spot by defending
his titles and getting KO's is very impressive. Atleast Casamayor,
Diaz and Katsidis were all known to fight and had good wins in their
careers. So did Cotto and Margarito but them catchweights for the
titles were a lil too much, considering how high boxing experts and fans
regard Manny on the P4P list. Manny should atleast fight someone
who no one is sure if Manny will adapt to the style. All of his opponents
have been slower than him with no defense. Aggressive brawlers.
I never was too sold on Pac technical skill wise but do respect that
he puts on a show but after Marquez, Pac went the easy route. Floyd
did too but Floyd fought guys that were held higher because of their
recent wins and titles. Manny hasn't even won a legit title since moving
up with exception to Ricky Hatton.

[waxfondler]

Pac does not want to really fight for his money anymore...he wants the easy fights, so no JMM...too bad cause this is the fight everyone I know really want Pac vs JMM 3 at 140.

its a tough call... when youre on top (like pac/floyd), everyone looks like easy fights.... the only tough fight for pac is sergio & other bigger guys... theres NOBODY @ WW that peaks interest... all the 140lb'ers are ALL prospects (they would get demolished by pac)...

pac gave up 20lbs to margs... whether you want to admit it or not, pac gave margs PLENTY of size advantages. consider it a handicap, since most felt like pac was going to outclass margs anyway. not a great accomplishment, but respectable.

thats like if floyd gave 20lbs to pavlik for a fight at catchweight... i would give floyd respect for fighting a bigger & stronger guy... even though we KNOW floyd will work this dude. still respectable. making jmm move up 20lbs and not respecting weight limit: not so respectable. LOL.

either way... pac/floyd arent even HUNGRY anymore, they dont have to work for their money... we freely THROW it at them.

[The Noose]

How did JMM look better against Mayweather??He never laid a glove on him..

He did. But like i said, Mosely was lucky to last the distance. JMM didnt get beat up and look old and gassed like Mosely.

[Rome-By-Ko]

JMM is hands down, a better fighter than Pacquiao will ever be, and Marquez doesn't need to take steroids.

Lead I respect you alot,but tbh your bugging JMM is a great fighter..But Pac is league's ahead of JMM..Pac beat this dude one handed and now that Pac has come full circle he would destroy JMM if they fought right now..

[waxfondler]

for a boxing fan Berto would be the best choice..
but money wise it's Mosley, so unfortunately, I get to watch one of my favorite fighters get his face punched in. sigh

HAHAHAHA. love this post.

[Rome-By-Ko]

He did. But like i said, Mosely was lucky to last the distance. JMM didnt get beat up and look old and gassed like Mosely.

Dude once again JMM never laid a glove on May,Mosley had May badly hurt you do the math..