Manny Should Just............

[IMDAZED]

Not only that in court much of the proceeding are set by precedents. So apply that to the sports world and we usually see that people who run away from drug test usually are roiders. We saw it with Bonds, McGuire, Jose Canseco......and the list is endless. So the easiest way to assuage fears is to just take the damn thing and get it over with.
Let me remind you that I'm not saying Pac is on anything. I'm just saying what has happened in the past and it looks su****ious.

Well, I think it's safe to say that people who don't want to be tested usually have a good reason. And it's usually not what they're saying.

People seem to miss that point. Manny could have indeed fought FMJ instead of Clottey. Floyd was desperate for a big payday and he wanted it. Now Floyd made 40 mil he doesn't much care.

The reason that fight didn't happen then and there is simple......MP didn't want it to, and i suspect Arum was pushing hard for it not to happen also. Why risk losing to FMJ when you can match your guy against men in your own stable, make more money?

I can think of a plethora of reasons why this fight wasn't made when it was right there. But posters don't like to hear it .

[fabie]

1. So what proof do the commissions have to do it again? Since, in your opinion, you need proof?

2. Not from a boxer based on speculation? Tell me, fabie, how did the commissions begin testing for PEDs?

Look, if you check the MARGARITO plaster-case...there's physical evidence before the hearing and banning by the Commission.

THe Mayweathers have their tongues.

[Guest]

They just need to make all drugs legal.

Remember how fun baseball and football were when everyone was roided up.

It really enhanced my experience of those sports.



I am sure they'd find some other way to stall this fight on both sides.

They'd just both have some other excuse I feel.

I think there is still a ton of bad blood between Floyd and Arum.

Egos get in the way of dollars.... damn shame.

[IMDAZED]

The real problem is that Floyd wants something that is not part of the standard boxing rules. So it ends up being a negotiation unfortunately. If they both really want it, then they will let it happen.

No matter what our talking points are, if Floyd was able to accept 14 days, hopefully they will accept a compromise and get this fight on.

Both fighters had stipulations that weren't a part of standard boxing rules. That just doesn't fly.

[IMDAZED]

Look, if you check the MARGARITO plaster-case...there's physical evidence before the hearing and banning by the Commission.

THe Mayweathers have their tongues.

That's nice but again...

1. So what proof do the commissions have to do testing again? Since, in your opinion, you need proof?

2. Not from a boxer based on speculation? Tell me, fabie, how did the commissions begin testing for PEDs?

[chinoy]

yup, but at least it showed that Pac wanted to negotiate because Pac wanted the fight....

Pac believed that giving his blood led to his lost to Morales....

Pac is superstitious, just like the chinese who would never buy a condo on the 4th floor even if it is 15% cheaper because is connotes death in chinese numerology......
this is something that people from the west will never understand.....

Well that's you. It didn't stop Pac from negotiating with him the first time so obviously that's irrelevant.

[check hook]

Look, if you check the MARGARITO plaster-case...there's physical evidence before the hearing and banning by the Commission.

THe Mayweathers have their tongues.

You're a pretty rational guy fabie. Think about it this way......

Floyd Mayweather Jr truly thinks MP has been using PED's. He asks for OST for both fighters. Would Manny and his team's reaction to that request make him feel like he wasn't on PED's?? Or would it harden his position further??

[IMDAZED]

yup, but at least it showed that Pac wanted to negotiate because Pac wanted the fight....

Pac believed that giving his blood led to his lost to Morales....

Pac is superstitious, just like the chinese who would never buy a condo on the 4th floor even if it is 15% cheaper because is connotes death in chinese numerology......
this is something that people from the west will never understand.....

Well if he was willing to negotiate then I suppose we can ignore your previous post, no? It makes everything you said moot.

[chinoy]

nope, 7 days would be enough to regain his strength

Well if he was willing to negotiate then I suppose we can ignore your previous post, no? It makes everything you said moot.

[HandSpeed303]

Since when can you compromise on a test?

When you went to school, did the professor give out some of the test answers after you negotiated with him?

Kill that ****** **** right now!!! It's not the same and you know it...

And even if it was, in this case, Floyd would be just another student (demanding things from another student), not a Professor (or the commission, who can actually punish you for not taking the test)...