Floyd Fans Give Up

[Bushbaby]

Its an elite collection, but not really....

Oscar De La Hoya ventures were both big fights and Oscar was still elite, but no one turns down a fight with De La Hoya, cause even if you lose the profile and money you receive just for fighting him.......

Vernon Forrest was considered just the other champion when Mosley fought him, people recognized that he had tools and skills in the ring, but who had he really proven it against? Mosley pretty much made Forrest career.

Winky Wright was much like Vernon Forrest just an above average career pre-Mosley (best performance was against Vargas), he had a better career than Forrest post Mosley, but Mosley didn't have a crystal ball to predict that Wright would blow up and become big. So you can't say Mosley was taking on some sort of tour de force at the time.

Vargas was pretty much crap post De La Hoya.

Cotto chose Mosley as a stepping stone fight as much as Shane chose Cotto. That was more of a mutual decision.

I will give him credit for Margarito.

Mayweather chose Mosley coming off the failed negotiations with Pac. Credit to Mosley for accepting, but its not like he picked the fight, or was in much of a position to turn it down. I know Shane did some barking, but he was considered to be on vacation post-Margarito.

Go ahead & name a fighter with a more stellar resume at 147-154!!U left out a couple,but ur reasonings are wack!!U forgot to mention that sugar Shane bi-past 140 to fight a prime Oscar!!

Forrest was an undefeated welterweight champion who had beaten Mosley more than once in the amateurs!!

Winky Wright was my fave fighter before the Punisher,but don't act like Winky wasn't no body,Mosley was the only star fighter outside of Vargas not afraid to fight him!!Vargas was undefeated & a rising star,BTW that's why he got the nod over Winky!!But don't forget to mention that Mosley was sonned both time in his 1st fight vs Winky & Forrest but made it closer in his second losses,that's gansta right there!!

Vargas was on the downside,but he was still way bigger & Mosley still manhandled him!!

Cotto & Mosley was a war & should be seen with respect,Mosley had Cotto fighting backwards in the second half of that fight!!

There is no choice but to give Mosley credit for destroying Margarito!!

Fighting Floyd deserves respect,he got his a$$ handed to him for ten rounds & soaked it up!!

What surprises me about ur post is that U spent all that time typing up an excuse as to why Mosley's career isn't stellar!!i wonder if U'd do the same for another certain fighter??

[OpaiSoma]

You dumb a sses after mosley who the fawk you think hell fight? saul alvarez.

Hell fight Berto or JMM or bradley, for now just stfu.

[G-DOGS]

berto sparks pacquiao @ 147.

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[mathed]

I used to talk about how great Floyd was back before I really started to follow boxing. Once I saw that he was just a wanna be superstar who put up more talking than action, I wrote him off. There are plenty of boxers who take tough challenges and don't make up excuses and put up a good show to worry about what the heck Floyd is doing.

Floyd's star has faded, people more and more just want to see him put down like an old dog...that's why people watch his fights. Sure he has fans but not like he once did and people want to see him put in his place. Commentators call him a coward now when they once called him the best boxer on the face of the planet, the times have changed and Floyd is taking a back seat.

[Khalid X]

As much as I don't like Floyd, he has one of the better resumes in boxing. People are too critical on his opponent selection when a lot of those are great wins.

Shane Mosley was a great win and he got full credit from me. SSM was a Top 3 WW when he fought him and Floyd completely dominated him

Zab Judah was a great/underrated win IMO. Zab fvkked up in the baldomir fight but still had to tools to give Floyd problems. Top 3 WW also that was completely dominated by Floyd

Ricky Hatton- I can give too ****s what people believe but Ricky is a good fighter. I mean lets be real and look at things objectively by comparing Hatton to Floyd's other opponents. The more Floyd dominates guys like Mosley, Marquez and others the more I become impress with the performance Ricky put up. Hatton was undefeated and beat a lot of top guys in his division before stepping up to face Floyd. Again full credit from me.


The problem is we hold both Manny and Floyd to ridiculous level. All those other P4P top fighters take on bad fighters as well but people turn a blind eye to them.

Williams fought ****ty fighters in Kolle and Verno Phillips

Donaire has been fighting scrubs in Hernan Marquez etc

Marquez...well props for Diaz and Katsidis wins but neither of those guys are world beaters. Those wins are no better than Manny beating Clottey or Floyd beating Hatton/Oscar.

Klitschko's-due to no fault of thier own fought guys like Briggs, Chirosa, Peter and others.

Martinez-yes he fought Pavlik and WIlliams but Cintron was a average at best fighters and his opponents prior to that was fvkkin terrible.


And let's not get into the legendary fighters most love to worship and hold to high standards. Those dudes were no better fighting for money as well as taking on scrubs even during their legendary run's that made them ATG's.

The problem know in days is that fight fans are dillusional. Boxers have always fought for money, and taken on lesser opponents from time to time.

No one fights top tier fighters back to back to back....and I wish more people would wake up and realize boxing has never been like that.

[DarchinyFAN]

Go ahead & name a fighter with a more stellar resume at 147-154!!U left out a couple,but ur reasonings are wack!!U forgot to mention that sugar Shane bi-past 140 to fight a prime Oscar!!

Forrest was an undefeated welterweight champion who had beaten Mosley more than once in the amateurs!!

Winky Wright was my fave fighter before the Punisher,but don't act like Winky wasn't no body,Mosley was the only star fighter outside of Vargas not afraid to fight him!!Vargas was undefeated & a rising star,BTW that's why he got the nod over Winky!!But don't forget to mention that Mosley was sonned both time in his 1st fight vs Winky & Forrest but made it closer in his second losses,that's gansta right there!!

Vargas was on the downside,but he was still way bigger & Mosley still manhandled him!!

Cotto & Mosley was a war & should be seen with respect,Mosley had Cotto fighting backwards in the second half of that fight!!

There is no choice but to give Mosley credit for destroying Margarito!!

Fighting Floyd deserves respect,he got his a$$ handed to him for ten rounds & soaked it up!!

What surprises me about ur post is that U spent all that time typing up an excuse as to why Mosley's career isn't stellar!!i wonder if U'd do the same for another certain fighter??

you completely missed the point of my post.

I am not saying that Mosley hasn't been in the ring with stellar opposition. I am saying that, he fought some of those guys before people knew how truly good they were (Forrest and Wright) people knew they had skills and were good, but their career didn't get big until post Mosley. So its not like Mosley knew he was going to be fighting eventual P4P types.

Vargas was garbage at that moment, his biggest fight post DLH was Castillejo and that fight was seriously boring.

Cotto and Mayweather chose Mosley to fight, more than Mosley chose them.

Credit for Margarito

Credit for oscar, but EVERYONE wants to fight Oscar regardless.

I hope I simplified it enough for you to get the concept.

[Vegan101]

I have always supported Floyd but that time is over,the man does not give a sht about anyone but himself,he is a self centered prick,with an over inflated ego.As for Manny he is not exactly taking on all comers he is picking and choosing the easiest fights possible for himself,thats why he will fight Mosley and not Berto or Marquez who clearly deserve it more. I am done with this rivalry that never existed they are both clearly scared of each other.
Its time for boxing to move on annoit and pump new stars.

stfu and get a life, moron

[Walt Liquor]

As much as I don't like Floyd, he has one of the better resumes in boxing. People are too critical on his opponent selection when a lot of those are great wins.

Shane Mosley was a great win and he got full credit from me. SSM was a Top 3 WW when he fought him and Floyd completely dominated him

Zab Judah was a great/underrated win IMO. Zab fvkked up in the baldomir fight but still had to tools to give Floyd problems. Top 3 WW also that was completely dominated by Floyd

Ricky Hatton- I can give too ****s what people believe but Ricky is a great fighters. I mean lets be real and look at things objectively by comparing Hatton to Floyd's other opponents. The more Floyd dominates guys like Mosley, Marquez and others the more I become impress with the performance Ricky
put up. Hatton was bigger than Floyd, was undefeated and really cleaned out this division before stepping up to face Floyd. Again full credit from me.


The problem is we hold both Manny and Floyd to ridiculous level. All those other P4P top fighters are fighting worse competition but people turn a blind eye to them.

Williams fought ****ty fighters in Kolle and Verno Phillips

Donaire has been fighting scrubs in Hernan Marquez etc

Marquez...well props for Diaz and Katsidis wins but neither of those
guys are world beaters. Those wins are no better than Manny beating Clottey or Floyd beating Baldomir.
Klitschko's-due to no fault of thier own fought guys like Briggs, Chirosa,
Peter and others.
Martinez-yes he fought Pavlik and WIlliams but Cintron was a average at best fighters and his opponents prior to that was fvkkin terrible.
And let's not get into the legendary fighters most love to worship and hold to high standards. Those dudes were no better fighting for money as well as taking on scrubs even during their legendary run's that made them ATG's.
The problem know in days is that fight fans are dillusional. Boxers have always fought for money, and taken on lesser opponents from time to time.
No one fights top tier fighters back to back to back....and I wish more people would wake up and realize boxing has never been like that.

easily one of the most inaccurate posts I've ever read in my couple of years here (with the same account). I mean I expect this type of stuff from certain posters, I guess you fall in the same catagory now. I mean, there's more bluushi t and nonsense in here than in a Christian science "bible" or l Ron hubbard book.

[Khalid X]

easily one of the most inaccurate posts I've ever read in my couple of years here (with the same account). I mean I expect this type of stuff from certain posters, I guess you fall in the same catagory now. I mean, there's more bluushi t and nonsense in here than in a Christian science "bible" or l Ron hubbard book.

Okay which parts do you disagree with.

[Walt Liquor]

you completely missed the point of my post.

I am not saying that Mosley hasn't been in the ring with stellar opposition. I am saying that, he fought some of those guys before people knew how truly good they were (Forrest and Wright) people knew they had skills and were good, but their career didn't get big until post Mosley. So its not like Mosley knew he was going to be fighting eventual P4P types.
Vargas was garbage at that moment, his biggest fight post DLH was Castillejo and that fight was seriously boring.
Cotto and Mayweather chose Mosley to fight, more than Mosley chose them.
Credit for Margarit

Credit for oscar, but EVERYONE wants to fight Oscar regardless.

I hope I simplified it enough for you to get the concept.

I get your point but you are missing the real point. It doesn't matter who chose Shane to fight him, he still fought the best resume of fighters. And you are completely wrong about winky. You couldn't be more wrong. Everybody was ducking winky because everyone in the know in boxing knew that winky was a nightmare.

Who gives a *** who chose who? Floyd chose to fight a way overblown jmm, does that mean Floyd doesn't count on jmm's resume?

Basically, your point is pointless.