Manny has not improved that much technically.........

[Pullcounter]

If you think he was you should take your own advice.

morales was a refined boxer, but chose to brawl. there is a big difference and the fact that you don't know this means you should just quit boxing and pick up something easier like mma.

[infamous larryx]

this thread has "e beef"written all over it..lol

[-Hyperion-]

manny's one dimensionality was always overstated anyway.....his camp had been aware of it and had been refining his other tools for years...go back to any HBO fight since the first Marquez fight, they always say he had been working on his skills pre fight....but since it didnt really show against the morales' and marquez', they think he was still the straight left only fighter he used to be.......he wasnt as improved as now, but he wasnt as raw either....people act like manny is a different beast altogether since the diaz fight...as if he hadnt struggled 4 months earlier against a much better fighter.....

[Dynamite Kid]

morales was a refined boxer, but chose to brawl. there is a big difference and the fact that you don't know this means you should just quit boxing and pick up something easier like mma.

I dont believe that, infact I have seen most of Morales's fights, and part of the reason he got dragged into a war all the time, was a culmination of a few things, his ring generalship and defense were not very good, plus he liked to fight, he would get trapped on the ropes, get hit, then become embroiled in a fight.

After that chat we had a long time ago about Cotto, I wont even attempt to respond to what I know, what you dont know.

[Bastian Loc]

Pac not cutting weight anymore
bigger improvement than changes in him technically
but he is a more complete fighter than he used to be
never gonna be full fledged technician
but as a boxer puncher/volume puncher, Pac is lethal

Man... every time I read your posts I hear this guys voice in my head.

[FloydTBE]

He's not as predictable when he makes his move, like he used to be. Opponents used to be able to bank on Manny lunging in with the straight left to kick off any combination, now not so much. He also seems to have a much better understanding of how to counter punch and use the moments his opponents throw to let loose his superior handspeed.

It's not like he doesn't have any flaws, but he is clearly a better and smarter fighter. I thought the Cotto fight displayed that above doubt.

no question that hes improved, but floyd still whoops him

[Deeznuts]

****** fkn thread....If it ain't broke why fix it? /end of thread

[Las Vegas,]

Manny improved by simply using his right hand more. He's still the same fight he always has been. The problem is Arum is giving him gimmie fights so he'll look good.

Pacquiao against a good technical boxer would get his ass smashed. Plain and simple. Hell Marquez at 147 would still give him problems.

[Walt Liquor]

This is a horrible thread.

Manny was shut out after rd 2 vs jmm their first fight and boxed him to a standstill in their second and won by a knockdown.

For starters.....

[Pullcounter]

I dont believe that, infact I have seen most of Morales's fights, and part of the reason he got dragged into a war all the time, was a culmination of a few things, his ring generalship and defense were not very good, plus he liked to fight, he would get trapped on the ropes, get hit, then become embroiled in a fight.

morales can fight a disciplined fight, but he chose to brawl. like you said he loved to fight.

After that chat we had a long time ago about Cotto, I wont even attempt to respond to what I know, what you dont know.

I don't remember it.