Comments Thread For: Schaefer: Floyd Mayweather is Not on a Pacquiao (Rolex) clock!

[GRUSTLER]

It's amazing how one cannot come to terms with that statement. It's almost as if they'd rather leave it up to debate than want Pacquiao to test and find out.

I mean come on. These guys are delusional and swimming in DENIAL.
This fight would have been past tense if Pacquiao just agreed to the
tests. Mosley leaving Golden Boy to get a fight with Pac, only shows
that Arum wasn't serious about dealing with Mayweather and
Golden Boy the second time around. I remember seeing a video
where Roach said Manny would accept any tests Floyd wanted and
when they do, Floyd would run away scared. I know for sure that
the 10MIL penalty was to scare Floyd off because they know he likes
money so much, combined with thinking Mayweather can't make the
weight due to the JMM catchweight fight. Why do posters keep
ignoring my sig of what Arum said about making the fight? It's obvious
who's full of it. It's funny how they say Floyd ducked all these guys
that called him out but can't find one link, article or quote saying
Floyd didn't want the fight(s) BUT with Manny, there are articles
about him and Roach ducking Mosley after Margarito AND saying
he would not fight Paul Williams. Manny has the real ducking history
and I think everything is starting to come out in the wash.

[The Hammer]

No, he's right.

Floyd is on a Leonard Ellerbe ****. :*******:

[GRUSTLER]

I believe that Manny Pacquiao is making too much money for Arum
to let Floyd and Golden Boy take that away from him AND NO MATTER
what any Pac fans think. Floyd has a more than positive chance to
whup Pacquiao out AND NO WAY will Arum let that happen
ESPECIALLY how much he hates Floyd, Oscar and now Schaefer.
Arum is a kranky old man that is set in his way of making money.
He doesn't care about what the fans think or say. I believe he
said it before. On top of that, people keep forgetting that Arum
is a lawyer and knows how to manipulate people. He says the
absolute truth sometimes about what he is doing and people
ignore it because he shifts the blame and goes to extraordinary
lengths to point the finger. Arum is a manipulator and can work
the media in his favor like no one.

[ADP02]

The only guy that can have a legitimate beef with Mayweather was Margarito. He actually went to Mayweather in person and asked when they could fight, but what you fail to mention is at the very same time, Paul Williams had been calling out Margarito. For years prior to that, PWill had been going around talking about how he whooped Margs in a sparring session so they sent him home for it. The only reason Margs fought PWill was because he was his mandatory, years later.

As for the other guys you listed, Cotto never wanted it with Mayweather. PWill wasn't calling out Mayweather because he was busy trying to land a fight with Margs. If you say Mayweather "ducked" PWill, then you have to say that Pacquiao did too. Mayweather never ducked Mosley, if you were a fan of boxing, you would have known Mosley had a "toothache" after he knocked out Vargas when he was asked about a Mayweather fight next. Pacquiao did "duck" Mosley though, i.e. see Roach's interview at Wild Card.

You weren't a fan of the sport before 2007 because if you were, you'd know that the opponents that Mayweather has fought are legit and were former world champions and world beaters. Stop hating, especially on things you have no knowledge about. You want to vent? Take your agenda to school with you.

What is it, 3 times now that I tell you to just go back and read my posts. I answered most of what you brought up. If there is anything I missed, I will gladly respond.

Try again!

By the way, you are in at least partial agreement with me as part of the question was about Floyd not fighting Margarito. So that in itself was enough.

I'm sure I answered your question in my previous posts .... that I have been around for a while (ie. watching boxing) but I will repeat that for you.....

[deejd]

What is it, 3 times now that I tell you to just go back and read my posts. I answered most of what you brought up. If there is anything I missed, I will gladly respond.

Try again!

By the way, you are in at least partial agreement with me as part of the question was about Floyd not fighting Margarito. So that in itself was enough.

I'm sure I answered your question in my previous posts .... that I have been around for a while (ie. watching boxing) but I will repeat that for you.....

No argument about Margarito, but let's be honest here... Tim Bradley called out Pacquiao, so by your logic, Pacquiao "ducked" Bradley. Great job.

And no, you haven't been around for awhile. To try and berate Mayweather's resume is foolish, then try to post how he "ducked" Mosley, Cotto, and PWill without providing the links that you said you would is that much more ridiculous.

Just say you hate Mayweather, that would be a start if you want your posts to be respected.

[FloydTBE]

real war of words between hbo n top rank. they doin more trash talkin than the fighters have been

[ADP02]

No argument about Margarito, but let's be honest here... Tim Bradley called out Pacquiao, so by your logic, Pacquiao "ducked" Bradley. Great job.

And no, you haven't been around for awhile. To try and berate Mayweather's resume is foolish, then try to post how he "ducked" Mosley, Cotto, and PWill without providing the links that you said you would is that much more ridiculous.

Just say you hate Mayweather, that would be a start if you want your posts to be respected.

Margarito was in Floyd's division for many years. Same can't be said about Bradley. Manny's team has stated that they thought about it but that is not their #1 on their list of fighters.

Possibly if Bradley does well in his next fight and Manny has run out of options, I can still see that as a possibility.

I believe you were out of the loop and stating what you are saying. The discussions that we were having was about guys at 147 such as Cotto and Margarito.

I don't hate Floyd, I just want him to fight the best out there so he can prove to the world that he is what he says he is. Wouldn't you want the same? By the way, I do that with Manny too, so does that mean I now hate Manny? In other posts I said, not against Mosley nor Marquez and at first, I hoped not Margarito but after some thought, I knew it would be at least a good fight due to Margo's heart and attitude.

You got me painted all wrong.

I have seen Ali fights and I don't mean on the Classic channel or old tapes. So that gives you an idea of how long I have been watching boxing.

Oh, and some fights I was going for Ali and some times against ..... but it was more because I hoped the underdog would make it a fight NOT because I hated Ali..... lol!

[Shattered Jaw]

Strong spelling mistake in the thread title.....

[deejd]

Margarito was in Floyd's division for many years. Same can't be said about Bradley. Manny's team has stated that they thought about it but that is not their #1 on their list of fighters.

Possibly if Bradley does well in his next fight and Manny has run out of options, I can still see that as a possibility.

I believe you were out of the loop and stating what you are saying. The discussions that we were having was about guys at 147 such as Cotto and Margarito.

I don't hate Floyd, I just want him to fight the best out there so he can prove to the world that he is what he says he is. Wouldn't you want the same? By the way, I do that woth Manny too, so does that mean I now hate Manny? In other posts I said, not against Mosley nor Marquez and at first, I hoped not Margarito but after some thought, I knew it would be at least a good fight due to Margo's heart and attitude.

No, Margarito wasn't in Mayweather's division long, Mayweather had three fights at '47 before he jumped to '54 to fight DLH in '07. Mitchell was his first fight at '47. He was already signed to fight Judah who was the undisputed champ at '47, not Margarito, but Judah, who also happened to be a bigger draw. Judah had a lapse but Mayweather would eventually beat the lineal champ Baldomir. Mayweather had been deadset on fighting DLH from the time he turned pro. Why fight Margs when you can fight DLH and get paid?? Why would Pacquiao want to fight Casamayor, Guzman, Campbell, Raheem, Diaz, all guys that wanted to fight Pacquiao, when he can fight DLH and get paid???

The point I've made is that you never posted any links that support your "ducking" theory. It's all just your personal opinion, and that is alright, you're not alone.

What I'm bringing to the table is the fact that you don't follow boxing because for you to question the level of opposition Mayweather has faced just supports my statement.

I have seen Ali fights and I don't mean on the Classic channel or old tapes. So that gives you an idea of how long I have been watching boxing.

Oh, and some fights I was going for Ali and some times against ..... but it was more because I hoped the underdog would make it a fight NOT because I hated Ali..... lol!

Kids.

[LeadUppercut]

why are *****s still bringing up the first negotiation like it's still relevant??? seriously...everyone got the answers they were looking for by the second negotiation! Pacquiao caved in to 7 days when floyd wanted 14 and floyd flat out refused the fight!!! floyd & his team just had to say publicly "random testing 24 hrs before the fight or no fight", but he didn't say that, even now!! instead they lied and pretended there were "no negotiations"!! That alone tells the world that mayweather does not want to fight pacquiao!!

Yet *****s are still holding on to the first negotiation even though it is the right of all fighters to refuse or at least negotiate testing that no commission or any other professional boxer in the world supports. The random testing for mayweather-mosley changed nothing!! Afterwards, no fighter or commission adopted it!! In fact, i bet that floyd himself did not enjoy the process of being tested up to the day of the fight. Why else would he claim "no negotiations"?? Random testing is now a moot point!!!

i think that floyd exhausted every excuse to avoid a fight with pacquiao. and when the sports world realized this, he began to self-destruct from the embarrassment. Hence...all his personal and criminal troubles!!

I'm a day behind, so maybe this has already been addressed.

1.) there has only ever been one official negotiation

2.) it is relevant, because, you just said this.....
" i think that floyd exhausted every excuse to avoid a fight with pacquiao "

Negotiations broke down in December after vacationer accepted EVERYTHING, a 50/50 split, the silly 10mil per pound weight penalty, EVERYTHING..... and Manny would not agree to random blood testing within 24 days of the fight.....
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=27427

Nothing to argue about there.

It is absurd to think that the OST request was a "duck".

I will re-post an old reply to the same question below.....