some people on here dont have a clue martinez is better than hopkins best win at middleweight!
I agree
Originally posted by street bully
man martinez got ktfo by margarito, and while he won had troubles with cintron, and lost to williams the first time. He is good but come on.
That's like talking about Pacquiao's early KO losses, he's not the same fighter. He did not have trouble with Cintron (a good fighter), and should've gotten the decision against Williams the first time.
If pure W-L were the sole reason we judged fighters, Martinez wouldn't even be a top P4P guy. It is about what you see in the ring. Martinez is as good or slightly less of a challenge than a prime Tito Trinidad would be for Hopkins. And to be honest, Martinez style actually is better for success against BHop. Again, not saying he'd win, but people need to have some clarity on what was, and what is.
That's like talking about Pacquiao's early KO losses, he's not the same fighter. He did not have trouble with Cintron (a good fighter), and should've gotten the decision against Williams the first time.
If pure W-L were the sole reason we judged fighters, Martinez wouldn't even be a top P4P guy. It is about what you see in the ring. Martinez is as good or slightly less of a challenge than a prime Tito Trinidad would be for Hopkins. And to be honest, Martinez style actually is better for success against BHop. Again, not saying he'd win, but people need to have some clarity on what was, and what is.
movers have never been trouble for Hopkins, high activity fighters with lightning speed have troubled him, but then again the only fighter to trouble a young Hopkins was Roy Jones. Hopkins vs martinez would look like the John David Jackson scrap.
What would martinez do, outbox Hopkins? Who ever has.
movers have never been trouble for Hopkins, high activity fighters with lightning speed have troubled him, but then again the only fighter to trouble a young Hopkins was Roy Jones. Hopkins vs martinez would look like the John David Jackson scrap.
What would martinez do, outbox Hopkins? Who ever has.
Martinez has more dimensions than being a mover. I think he has proved that.
Martinez has more dimensions than being a mover. I think he has proved that.
Would he outbox Hopkins, hell no no one ever has, he doesn't have volume, and Hopkins was more active than martinez. His power would also get zero respect from Hopkins, it is not like he would ever land clean anyways. No matter how you look at it martinez is screwed son.
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