Comments Thread For: Arum: Martinez at 155? Pacquiao is Great, Not Superman

[Floydiot]

My issue with Pac, his team, and all those who worship him is that the hype machine has gotten in the way of reality. We've been force fed chicken-****, and been told it was chicken soup. 1.15M people spent at least $60 because they thought they were watching history seeing Pac win a "title" in an 8th division. But now, because its not a hand picked tomato can, he's too little to fight in the division. They've continually pulled this nonsense since leaving the 130 division. He fought Diaz instead of Casamayor or Campbell at lightweight. He fights Cotto instead of a Mosley who was considered by most the top welter. And now he fights Margarito for a vacant belt at 154 when neither has ever been in a significant 154 match. Its ridiculous. Pac bull****ted his way into that 154 belt. Now, he's got someone wanting to take in in what is the biggest fight available to him. But all of a sudden, he's too little. It sickening and has turned a person who used to be one his biggest fans (me) into someone who can't stand what he's become.

You're absolutely correct. We've been forced feed with Kentucky Floyd CHICKEN. We have been made to believe how great floyd is. In reality, what he do is ran away.

I'll always remember him as FRAUD Maynever.

[Champ Is Here]

Somebody's scared

[puga]

Actually, you need a little history lesson. Its common knowledge that Robinson was outclassing Maxim and collasped in the corner from heat exaustion after the 13th round. And you actually have no way of knowing what these guys were outweighed by on fight nigth because back then, they didn't have "unoffical" HBO scales. And like I said, all of that is irrelevant. The relevant point is, Pac was cool fighting Margarito at 154, but not cool fighting Martinez at 154. It is also well documented (by Pac's trainer on ****) that Pac had no problem fighting de la Hoya at 147, but not Mosley. And it is common knowledge that he had no issues fighting Clottey at 147, but asked Cotto to fight him at 145. Now, IMO Pac beats all these guys without the catchweights. But, the mere fact that he's selective about who he fights at what weights is getting a bit ridiculous.

was'nt the rule then was the same day weigh ins, where the ofifcial weight was the actual weight at fight night?.....

[Floydiot]

Manny Pacqiuao is definitely the biggest fluke in boxing. They make
this big fuss about Manny moving up and beating biggers guys but
now he's too small when it comes to a guy that is the same size if
not smaller than the big man Pac just fought. How can anyone defend
this?

You're blinded by your desire to have an exit route for our ducking floyd.

[medi8r]

This is good, this is cool mang !! You make yer case well. You have struggled with the wins of the Pacman for many fights now. You guessed wrong so many times now, its got to be frustrating.

You know Hopkins, you surely know others, and possibly know the Mayweathers,,, GET HIM TO SIGN THE CONTRACT !!

Actually Pac would have a harder time fight May Jr than he would Martinez. Martinez is more apt to KO Pac than May jr. ever would, he is more feather fisted, and not proven in the WELTERWEIGHT division. I mean can you name ONE elite fighter in his prime that Mayweather has beaten ? Pac HAS, several of them.s

COTTO beat MOSLEY before May whipped him, Cotto never got cracked like May did, Cottos got a better chin than May does, proved that when Mosley cracked his jaw. Now this is childish $#!* talk . By the way Cotto was good until he ran into Mannys POWER !!!!!

We all know you desperately want to see Pac get KO'd like we all want to see May get KO'd, so if you have connections go find May,

drop all the wicked vile talk

drop the silly excuse of DRUGS

Sign the contract

LETS GET IT ON !!!!!!!!!

Man, I would like to stress that I like Pacquiao, but the sentence above is just false. I don't need to articulate why it's false. Anybody on here that is a true boxing fan can attest to that. With the possible exception of Clottey, who may have been in his prime, but had already exhibited a knack for neglecting the gas pedal in big fights and shelling up.

[Boxing's Truth]

Actually, you need a little history lesson. Its common knowledge that Robinson was outclassing Maxim and collasped in the corner from heat exaustion after the 13th round. And you actually have no way of knowing what these guys were outweighed by on fight nigth because back then, they didn't have "unoffical" HBO scales. And like I said, all of that is irrelevant. The relevant point is, Pac was cool fighting Margarito at 154, but not cool fighting Martinez at 154. It is also well documented (by Pac's trainer on ****) that Pac had no problem fighting de la Hoya at 147, but not Mosley. And it is common knowledge that he had no issues fighting Clottey at 147, but asked Cotto to fight him at 145. Now, IMO Pac beats all these guys without the catchweights. But, the mere fact that he's selective about who he fights at what weights is getting a bit ridiculous.

Do you remember what Freddy Shakes said in that video interview when talking about what he saw from Dela Hoya when the ref gave the instructions in the ring?

He said that he noticed the fresh I.V. marks on Dela Hoya from where they tried to hydrate him. I'm telling you, Freddy and Ariza have this weight thing down to a science.

If the weight issue by one or two pounds wasn't a big deal then why even implement the catchweights? But Tards don't care about that, they just love the fact that Pac is so dreamy when in all actuality he's not what he seems to be.

[medi8r]

This is good, this is cool mang !! You make yer case well. You have struggled with the wins of the Pacman for many fights now. You guessed wrong so many times now, its got to be frustrating.

You know Hopkins, you surely know others, and possibly know the Mayweathers,,, GET HIM TO SIGN THE CONTRACT !!

Actually Pac would have a harder time fight May Jr than he would Martinez. Martinez is more apt to KO Pac than May jr. ever would, he is more feather fisted, and not proven in the WELTERWEIGHT division. I mean can you name ONE elite fighter in his prime that Mayweather has beaten ? Pac HAS, several of them. Beaten or not, they are in their prime,,,,COTTO, Margo, Clottey, before you start in on Mosley remember MOSLEY was an OLD MAN, had many LOSSES, like you know people want to say that May done beat him and here comes Pac and beats him cause May done beat him, hahaha

COTTO beat MOSLEY before May whipped him, Cotto never got cracked like May did, Cottos got a better chin than May does, proved that when Mosley cracked his jaw. Now this is childish $#!* talk . By the way Cotto was good until he ran into Mannys POWER !!!!!

We all know you desperately want to see Pac get KO'd like we all want to see May get KO'd, so if you have connections go find May,

drop all the wicked vile talk

drop the silly excuse of DRUGS

Sign the contract

LETS GET IT ON !!!!!!!!!

OOOPS. THis sentence.

[Floydiot]

At what point do we stop giving Pacquaio a pass. I mean, the popular opinion seems to be, "It blame his team, but not him." The reality is, Arum, Roach, Ariza, Kontz, Buboy, and every other flunkie are employees of Manny Pacquaio. If a Fortune 500 company goes backrupt, you don't blame the general employees. The problem came way above their pay grade. And I look at the current situation with Team Pacquaio in the same light. Yeah, Pac's people look a lot more shady than he. But, in the long run all final decisions have to clear his desk. And if he didn't want some of these things to happen, they wouldn't happen.

I pity my boy floyd. He's the boss and he did all this things on him by himself alone. we don't have to blame his team.

[gwildcat77]

Floyd is Wack!

Weenie-Ass, Excuse-Making, *****-Ass, No-Challenge-Fighting, Pac-Ducking, Cotto-Ducking, Margarito-Ducking, Boring-Fighting dude WITH NO CLASS that don't want to improve his legacy.. FLOYD IS WACK!!

[hitking]

was'nt the rule then was the same day weigh ins, where the ofifcial weight was the actual weight at fight night?.....

They used to weigh-in the mornings of the fights. It was generally about 12 hours between weigh-in and fight. So no, guys didn't balloon 15-20 lbs between weigh-in and fights, but they did have time to rehydrate.