Comments Thread For: Arum: Martinez at 155? Pacquiao is Great, Not Superman

[medi8r]

My issue with Pac, his team, and all those who worship him is that the hype machine has gotten in the way of reality. We've been force fed chicken-****, and been told it was chicken soup. 1.15M people spent at least $60 because they thought they were watching history seeing Pac win a "title" in an 8th division. But now, because its not a hand picked tomato can, he's too little to fight in the division. They've continually pulled this nonsense since leaving the 130 division. He fought Diaz instead of Casamayor or Campbell at lightweight. He fights Cotto instead of a Mosley who was considered by most the top welter. And now he fights Margarito for a vacant belt at 154 when neither has ever been in a significant 154 match. Its ridiculous. Pac bull****ted his way into that 154 belt. Now, he's got someone wanting to take in in what is the biggest fight available to him. But all of a sudden, he's too little. It sickening and has turned a person who used to be one his biggest fans (me) into someone who can't stand what he's become.

You really can't argue with this logic. Team Pac claims to have won an eighth title in the JRMW division and now that there is a formidable foe willing to take him on, people claim he's not superman?

I'm still a Pac fan. The thing that gets me is how Pac fans have no perspective at all.

Mosley is next. He's looked the worst and has the biggest name. Count on it.

Pac is playing out his career with harness and net.

[hitking]

i'm a big pacman fan, and i don't blame him, i'm sure he is fighting whoever his management puts infront of him. But the people around him sucks, they don't agree to fight marquez at junior welter, and they don't agree a catchweight neither. But they expect other fighters too come down or to fight at a catchweight. Honestly alex ariza seems too be the best man in the most honest in his corner.

At what point do we stop giving Pacquaio a pass. I mean, the popular opinion seems to be, "It blame his team, but not him." The reality is, Arum, Roach, Ariza, Kontz, Buboy, and every other flunkie are employees of Manny Pacquaio. If a Fortune 500 company goes backrupt, you don't blame the general employees. The problem came way above their pay grade. And I look at the current situation with Team Pacquaio in the same light. Yeah, Pac's people look a lot more shady than he. But, in the long run all final decisions have to clear his desk. And if he didn't want some of these things to happen, they wouldn't happen.

[twosweethooks]

Manny Pacqiuao is definitely the biggest fluke in boxing. They make
this big fuss about Manny moving up and beating biggers guys but
now he's too small when it comes to a guy that is the same size if
not smaller than the big man Pac just fought. How can anyone defend
this?

This is good, this is cool mang !! You make yer case well. You have struggled with the wins of the Pacman for many fights now. You guessed wrong so many times now, its got to be frustrating.

You know Hopkins, you surely know others, and possibly know the Mayweathers,,, GET HIM TO SIGN THE CONTRACT !!

Actually Pac would have a harder time fight May Jr than he would Martinez. Martinez is more apt to KO Pac than May jr. ever would, he is more feather fisted, and not proven in the WELTERWEIGHT division. I mean can you name ONE elite fighter in his prime that Mayweather has beaten ? Pac HAS, several of them. Beaten or not, they are in their prime,,,,COTTO, Margo, Clottey, before you start in on Mosley remember MOSLEY was an OLD MAN, had many LOSSES, like you know people want to say that May done beat him and here comes Pac and beats him cause May done beat him, hahaha

COTTO beat MOSLEY before May whipped him, Cotto never got cracked like May did, Cottos got a better chin than May does, proved that when Mosley cracked his jaw. Now this is childish $#!* talk . By the way Cotto was good until he ran into Mannys POWER !!!!!

We all know you desperately want to see Pac get KO'd like we all want to see May get KO'd, so if you have connections go find May,

drop all the wicked vile talk

drop the silly excuse of DRUGS

Sign the contract

LETS GET IT ON !!!!!!!!!

[hitking]

You really can't argue with this logic. Team Pac claims to have won an eighth title in the JRMW division and now that there is a formidable foe willing to take him on, people claim he's not superman?

I'm still a Pac fan. The thing that gets me is how Pac fans have no perspective at all.

Mosley is next. He's looked the worst and has the biggest name. Count on it.

Pac is playing out his career with harness and net.

Does the way Team Pacquaio have conducted themselves recently change your opinion on why Mayweather-Pacquaio has yet to come together?

[puga]

The greatst fighter of all-time, "Sugar" Ray Robinson went up and challenged Joey Maxim for the light heavy title and weighed in at 157 for that fight. The #2 all-time P4P Henry Armstrong simultaneously held the featherweight, lightweight, and welterweight titles. I wish Pac would fight Martinez, especially considering that Maravilla is willing to come down in weight. But if Team Pacquaio doesn't want it, they don't want it. But don't go around talking about you have the greatest fighter of all-time and you're not willing to do things that other greats before him did.

maxim was 15 pounds bigger than robinson and ray got tkoed!...armstrong was never outweighed by any of his opponenets by much, sometimes he was the bigger guy, the most was vs ceferino garcia who only outweighed him by 10 lbs, ..nice try tho!...if pac fights sergio at 154, he'd be ouweighed by atleast 20 lbs fight night ..

[coolka]

For some idiots here that could not comprehend catch weights....have Vitali Klitschko and Carl Froch fight each other without catch weight. Did you get it?

[twosweethooks]

Boxing is being ruined by BIG MONEY

I disagree with ARUM and YOU, saying you got to put the fights together that make the most money.

First we have to pay for that big fight.

2nd Big money don't mean BIG BIG FIGHTS !!!!!!!

For instance Oscar vs May, a BORE-FEST made the most money and was so bad I wouldn't watch the replay for many a moon, then got sick cause People are shaming boxing over MONEY.

I am not against boxers getting money or big money but I don't think Money should rule the day, match the boxers , best to best !!!!!

For instance:

Pac came up in weight and established himself as the giantkiller. Good for him, made history, ALL TIME HISTORY !!

Now we got "MONEY" , what he needs to do to really make the fight with Pac a success for "GLORY" and money is to go up in weight and fight Sergio Martinez, if he wins:

Then MATCH PACMAN vs Mayweather jr. For all the GLORY and MONEY there is.

Mayweather needs to prove himself in the higher weight classes like the WW divisison for one,,,,he hasn't done that, but then to have the glory like Pac he needs to man up and fight Martinez, but he is in hiding, somebody go hep him out, hold his hand, wipe the sweat off his bald brow, tell him he can WIN, give him some confidence, grow him some BALLS,,,GET HIM TO FIGHT and not waste his skills and PRIME on threats, pokes and beating on women,,,stay out of courts and get in the ring , in the next few years it will be :


OVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hiram Joel]

Martinez wants his damn tittle back!!! Give him a shot or GTFO of jr.MW. paper chump.

[hitking]

maxim was 15 pounds bigger than robinson and ray got tkoed!...armstrong was never outweighed by any of his opponenets by much, sometimes he was the bigger guy, the most was vs ceferino garcia who only outweighed him by 10 lbs, ..nice try tho!...if pac fights sergio at 154, he'd be ouweighed by atleast 20 lbs fight night ..

Actually, you need a little history lesson. Its common knowledge that Robinson was outclassing Maxim and collasped in the corner from heat exaustion after the 13th round. And you actually have no way of knowing what these guys were outweighed by on fight nigth because back then, they didn't have "unoffical" HBO scales. And like I said, all of that is irrelevant. The relevant point is, Pac was cool fighting Margarito at 154, but not cool fighting Martinez at 154. It is also well documented (by Pac's trainer on ****) that Pac had no problem fighting de la Hoya at 147, but not Mosley. And it is common knowledge that he had no issues fighting Clottey at 147, but asked Cotto to fight him at 145. Now, IMO Pac beats all these guys without the catchweights. But, the mere fact that he's selective about who he fights at what weights is getting a bit ridiculous.

[TysonTKO]

LMAO WOW. this Manny **** just get better and better. 1st he was bigger than Jesus Christ, now he's not superman? does there need to be more evidence that they are cherry picking opponents? they know he will lose, thats why they don't want to fight Martinez. don't give me this big man ****. i clearly heard people say after he beat the punching bag on Nov 13 that size doesn't matter when it comes to Manny. so why does it matter now? these fools are crazy and i see everything. **** team paquiao and top rank. manny is just a media hype boxer. a puppet.