Marquez has the chance to be a top #2 mexican atg

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  • ralph22
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    #41
    Originally posted by Chaconlittlered
    1 Salvador Sanchez
    2 Julio Ceasar Chavez
    3 Vicente Saldivar
    4 Ruben Olivares
    5 Juan Manuel Marquez

    if Marquez beats Khan Bradley Alexander Manny he goes up to 3
    we go back to the same what has sanchez done to be better than chavez???

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    • Chaconlittlered
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      #42
      Originally posted by ralph22
      we go back to the same what has sanchez done to be better than chavez???
      Compare Chavez best win Taylor to Sanchez best win Gomez
      who won convincenly also La Porte fought both of them
      Sanchez had an easier fight than Chavez and longevity crap that's what it is crap he lost to whitaker De la Hoya Miguel angel Gonzalez

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        #43
        Originally posted by Chaconlittlered
        Too me Salvador beat his opponents more convincenly
        then Chavez compare Chavez best victory Taylor to Sanchez best
        victory Gomez also they both fought La Porte Chavez barely won
        and Sanchez best La Porte little easier
        But, that is not the only fighters JCC fought though. He beat Jose Luis Ramirez, beat Camacho, Edwin Rosario and all convincingly. Beat Roger Mayweather(2x) Who was OK also. Beat Haugen who was rated. Castillo(Chava also beat), Lockridge... Plus you add a 3 division champ and again his longevity is hard to say he is not #1....

        If Chava didn't die so young I have no doubt he would of been the #1. He has the better wins but not not the accomplishments or longevity that JCC had.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Chaconlittlered
          Compare Chavez best win Taylor to Sanchez best win Gomez
          who won convincenly also La Porte fought both of them
          Sanchez had an easier fight than Chavez and longevity crap that's what it is crap he lost to whitaker De la Hoya Miguel angel Gonzalez
          That is Whitaker though, and with his old with Oscar and washed up against MAGO and I felt he beat MAGO TBH... I don't really think he lost that fight.

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            #45
            Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby
            WTF if JCC doesn't have a great resume then there is no such thing as a great resume.
            Of course there is, SRR, Greb, Langford, Duran, Leonard, and plenty more have a great resume.

            JCC resume is not really great, great, it was really good though he beat some good fighters. His resume does get underrated by some. But, what made him special was underrated skill and longevity, and his accomplishments. He is somewhere in the top 20-30 ATG.

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              #46
              Originally posted by ralph22
              he might have to fight erik morales also and beat him.he is still fresh i dont see damage goods or signs of being washed up if so pacquiao would imidiately fight him since pacroid is the wahsed up killer

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              • joelab75
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                #47
                yeah he beat Diaz and Katsidis and now become so great. Marquez is far from being ATG. he beat Diaz 2x, Katsidis knocked him down before he stop him in the 8th round?, dominated by Floyd, beat the old, shot past prime Casamayor, draw and lost to Pac, beat a past prime and shot Barrera in a controversial decision and lost a controversial unanimous decision to Chris John. thats the facts.

                now tell me he is ATG? stop overrating this guy. no question he is a warrior and has a big heart but making him ATG is jut plain ******.

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                • Chaconlittlered
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  But, that is not the only fighters JCC fought though. He beat Jose Luis Ramirez, beat Camacho, Edwin Rosario and all convincingly. Beat Roger Mayweather(2x) Who was OK also. Beat Haugen who was rated. Castillo(Chava also beat), Lockridge... Plus you add a 3 division champ and again his longevity is hard to say he is not #1....

                  If Chava didn't die so young I have no doubt he would of been the #1. He has the better wins but not not the accomplishments or longevity that JCC had.
                  Salvador Sanchez beat pound for pound #4 David Lopez x2
                  Azumah Nelson Juan La Porte Castillo Pound for pound #3 Wilfredo Gomez
                  Nicky Perez Roberto Castanon he did this at the age of 23

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Chaconlittlered
                    Salvador Sanchez beat pound for pound #4 David Lopez x2
                    Azumah Nelson Juan La Porte Castillo Pound for pound #3 Wilfredo Gomez
                    Nicky Perez Roberto Castanon he did this at the age of 23
                    He did but he shouldn't get extra credit cuz he did it as such a young age.

                    Again, I already named the fighters that JCC beat. So his resume doesn't suck. Plus a 3 division champ, and longevity gives him the #1 spot over the great Salvador Sanchez IMO.

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                      #50
                      I just wish we coulda got prime MAB/Morales vs. prime JMM. I think Barrera did good enough past his prime to show he could win if he were fresher.

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