Manny Pacquiao: Skills or smart MATCH MAKING?

[THE REED]

But we see two different things. I don't want to get into a Floyd argument, but I will give my opinion that Floyd is on another level from Pacquiao. And while "anything" can happen in a fight when two people have certain styles, like Mosley and Pac, it can be COMPETITIVE. Anything can happen in a fight, but are Clottey and Margarito competitive? Against a fighter like Pacquiao? Hell no. They are not punchers, they are come forward, and they are SLOW AS MAPLE SYRUP IN THE FREEZER.

I don't use the dismantling of Mosley to Floyd in my analysis, because I believe Floyd is simple on another level, and there is no other fighter in the world who could make Mosley look so foolish as Floyd did. Floyd did the same thing to Marquez, simply because he is far superior.

Mosley isn't what he was in 2001 or 2002, but I think he's live, and his style with Pacquiao makes a good fight. It would not be anything like Mayweather/Mosley, as Pacquiao is simply not as good as Floyd.

That is what I believe. Time will tell, if this fight happens we'll see who is correct and we'll see how he performs with a guy that will fight "His" kind of fight in Manny Pacquiao.

If the fight doesn't happen, as it hasn't int he past... Then we can only assume that Top Rank too saw Mosley as too big of a threat for Manny...

You seem incredibly focused on who is "right" in the future


Floyd is on another level than everyone else, I agree with that.


But I'm sorry, Mosley has shown me nothing that indicates he still has it. Sure Floyd had a lot to do with Mosleys reluctance... but Mora? Mora did try to spoil the fight a bit with clinching, but so did Mosley... Mosley literally clinched just as much... He looked slower to me, his timing looked off, and his combination punching were gone... it was one shot and clinch for most of that fight.

I haven't seen ANYTHING from Mosley in two years... he's 39 years old.

And while Pac may not be better than Floyd... he is certainly better than Mora..

Either he knocks Pac out with one single hayemaker, or he gets completely and utterly destroyed over the course of 12.

The latter is more likely by about 95%.

[dyu]

Nah, I would be happy to see him fight any of those that you listed, as they are all competitive, outside of Berto, they all have a chance to beat him.

I am tired of him fighting guys with virtually no chance. Fight somebody with a chance. That's what "competition" is called.

If he continues to fight shot, flat footed, come forward guys with no speed yes, I will **** on him all day.

Its funny though ... other *****s think the exact opposite as you.
They think the mosley fight is a farce .. and berto has speed+power w/c would expose pac for fighting "plodding" fighters.

[CarlosG815]

You seem incredibly focused on who is "right" in the future


Floyd is on another level than everyone else, I agree with that.


But I'm sorry, Mosley has shown me nothing that indicates he still has it. Sure Floyd had a lot to do with Mosleys reluctance... but Mora? Mora did try to spoil the fight a bit with clinching, but so did Mosley... Mosley literally clinched just as much... He looked slower to me, his timing looked off, and his combination punching were gone... it was one shot and clinch for most of that fight.

I haven't seen ANYTHING from Mosley in two years... he's 39 years old.

And while Pac may not be better than Floyd... he is certainly better than Mora..

Either he knocks Pac out with one single hayemaker, or he gets completely and utterly destroyed over the course of 12.

The latter is more likely by about 95%.

No, my point is we can debate til we're blue in the face, but only time will tell who is correct.

And Pac is better than Mora but they're different fighters. Can you give me your opinion as to why Pac/Mosley has not happened in the last 2 years?

Edit: You have a very poor sense of conveying what people are saying. You say things like "You seem focused on who is right in the future" and "Don't put words in my mouth" when the conversation does not call for it, as if you feel as though somebody is trying to one up or pull something over your eyes.

[JayDee2700]

Its funny though ... other *****s think the exact opposite as you.
They think the mosley fight is a farce .. and berto has speed+power w/c would expose pac for fighting "plodding" fighters.

Mosley is shot, Berto is probably the most dangerous fighter(outside of Floyd & Sergio Martinez) for Manny right now due to the fact he does hav the speed an power to KO Manny plus Berto has a mean uppercut that Manny get caught with quite often, but the only question would be Berto's conditioning he's known to gas out in the later rounds which then it would b ova.

[CarlosG815]

Its funny though ... other *****s think the exact opposite as you.
They think the mosley fight is a farce .. and berto has speed+power w/c would expose pac for fighting "plodding" fighters.

The problem with *****'s is they try to disregard Pacquiao as an elite world class fighter. He is on another level from guys like Berto, Bradley, etc...

Those guys are on the level of Ricky Hatton, Miguel Cotto, Paul Malignaggi, Margarito, etc... They are not part of the boxing elite, as are JMM, Pacquiao, Floyd, etc..

[THE REED]

No, my point is we can debate til we're blue in the face, but only time will tell who is correct.

And Pac is better than Mora but they're different fighters. Can you give me your opinion as to why Pac/Mosley has not happened in the last 2 years?

Edit: You have a very poor sense of conveying what people are saying. You say things like "You seem focused on who is right in the future" and "Don't put words in my mouth" when the conversation does not call for it, as if you feel as though somebody is trying to one up or pull something over your eyes.

Because Mosley didn't bring in more money than Hatton, Cotto, De La Hoya, or Margarito...

If you want to use Freddie's reasoning 2 years ago that he thought Mosley is to good of a fighter so he didn't want to fight him..

It would be even more indication that Mosley is past it now, if Roach and Top Rank are now all the sudden ready for Mosley.

[CarlosG815]

Because Mosley didn't bring in more money than Hatton, Cotto, De La Hoya, or Margarito...

If you want to use Freddie's reasoning 2 years ago that he thought Mosley is to good of a fighter so he didn't want to fight him..

It would be even more indication that Mosley is past it now, if Roach and Top Rank are now all the sudden ready for Mosley.

They made that mistake with Morales in the first fight, and I think they can make it again.

[dyu]

The problem with *****'s is they try to disregard Pacquiao as an elite world class fighter. He is on another level from guys like Berto, Bradley, etc...

Those guys are on the level of Ricky Hatton, Miguel Cotto, Paul Malignaggi, Margarito, etc... They are not part of the boxing elite, as are JMM, Pacquiao, Floyd, etc..

Really? I think jmm is a great fighter but he ain't on their level.
Pac is an offensive machine. Floyd is a defensive machine.
JMM is a piss drinker .. hehe j/k.
Can you dissect his last 3 opponents (diaz,katsidis and casamayor)?

[iNDOLiFER]

But we see two different things. I don't want to get into a Floyd argument, but I will give my opinion that Floyd is on another level from Pacquiao. And while "anything" can happen in a fight when two people have certain styles, like Mosley and Pac, it can be COMPETITIVE. Anything can happen in a fight, but are Clottey and Margarito competitive? Against a fighter like Pacquiao? Hell no. They are not punchers, they are come forward, and they are SLOW AS MAPLE SYRUP IN THE FREEZER.

I don't use the dismantling of Mosley to Floyd in my analysis, because I believe Floyd is simple on another level, and there is no other fighter in the world who could make Mosley look so foolish as Floyd did. Floyd did the same thing to Marquez, simply because he is far superior.

Mosley isn't what he was in 2001 or 2002, but I think he's live, and his style with Pacquiao makes a good fight. It would not be anything like Mayweather/Mosley, as Pacquiao is simply not as good as Floyd.

That is what I believe. Time will tell, if this fight happens we'll see who is correct and we'll see how he performs with a guy that will fight "His" kind of fight in Manny Pacquiao.

If the fight doesn't happen, as it hasn't int he past... Then we can only assume that Top Rank too saw Mosley as too big of a threat for Manny...

floyd is on another level than manny? oh really, and what level mite that be? lol.. need i remind u all floyds opponents that he fought, pac DESTROYED them.

[iNDOLiFER]

shane is not even hungry for a win right now he just wants to get paid.