Comments Thread For: Arum: Berto is The Toughest Sell For Manny Pacquiao

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  • jtiger78
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    #181
    YEAH AS IF CLOTTEY HAD A GREAT FOLLOWING....

    PAC VS MOSLEY IS COMING

    WELL PAUL WILLIAMS JUST GOT KOed SO MAYBE HES NEXT BUT INSTEAD OF A CATCH WEIGHT PAUL WOULD HAVE TO COME IN ON HIS KNEES!!!

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    • laplapigos
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      #182
      Originally posted by Boxing's Truth
      You right!! I want the fight. But you know that Floyd ain't fighting unless you take the tests as he proposed. If you want to call him a scared beeacth, that's cool. But why not just take the tests? If that's the only thing hold the fight back then go ahead and accept it. Let's all call Floyd scared. But at the same time we need to tell Pac to man up. All this talk about Mosely, Marquez, Berto...we want to see Floyd/Pac!!!

      I want to see Manny give the people what they want to see. And if the only way we can get that is by Manny taking the tests then c'mon Manny, do it. This can't be about principle or being weak after giving blood.
      manny did agree with a 14 day before the fight cut off...the question is HOW does PEDs affect your performance within that period???remember in case you dont know the effect of EPO's increase hemoglobin level thereby increasing oxygen capacity of your red cells the same thing with training on high places cause theres thin air at high places which also your body tries to produce more hemoglobin....you see taking EPOs and training hard the right way have the same effect....which is which pacquiao does is that we dont know...another thing floyd fans insist that if theres a cut off date it will not be random but in my opinion im not expert but....if there's no cut off date you definitely know that the last possible date they take blood from you is a day before the fight right???same thing with the 14 day cut off date it just happened that it is 14 days earlier...and also urine test can detect PED's...do you think if u test the urine a fighter every day until fight night he can slip away if he takes PEDS???everyday urine test

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      • Pullcounter
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        #183
        I prefer berto over mosley and jmm, but i must agree with arum that berto can't sell ***** to flies.

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        • jtiger78
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          #184
          Originally posted by adp023
          pacquiao had every right to say no to random blood testing and negotiate since he's never failed a test or been caught like mosley!! Floyd is the only boxer making ridiculous demands like this because he's afraid. No other boxer is demanding this of their opponents!! So floyd used random blood testing to flat out duck pacquiao!! After floyd asked for a 14 day cut-off, pacquiao later agreed to a 7 day cut-off!!!! So obviously floyd accepted the fight, right?? Uhhh...floyd went on vacation and then royally sabotaged his life!!! Go ahead and keep deluding yourself buddy!!
          mike tyson and a few other boxers have asked for extra testing for a fight b4....
          Last edited by jtiger78; 11-29-2010, 03:57 PM.

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          • jtiger78
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            #185
            Originally posted by Pullcounter
            I prefer berto over mosley and jmm, but i must agree with arum that berto can't sell ***** to flies.
            I THINK IT WOULD DO BETTER THAN CLOTTEY NUMBERS WISE AND IT WOULD BE MORE EXCITING imjustsayin

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            • mannyman
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              #186
              Marquez: Pac will only fight Marquez at 147, we saw how poorly Marquez fought against Mayweather at 147 as he simply couldn't carry the weight.

              Mosley: As much as i hate to say it... Shanes done with. Financially viable but Pac destroys him at this point.

              Berto: Personally for me if the May fight doesn't come off - I'd like to see the Berto fight. Berto may be an unknown to the general public but surely they can hype it? Pac's a PPV attraction by himself anyway. IMO Berto is a live opponent... he's not fought any elite level fighters but he has to sometime.

              He's young, fast, pretty powerful, hungry and has a decent offence. It's the best fight available, he'd probably lose but he's a better chance than the two above.

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              • coolka
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                #187
                the most feasible scenario is to fight Mosley first and finish him in 3 rounds then Marquez in another 3 rounds then toy with Berto up to the 12th round. That sums it all. 3guys in 1 day. Mosley vs Pacquiao as the main event Pacquiao vs Marques as co-headliner then Pacquiao vs Berto as undercard bout.


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                • coolka
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                  #188
                  Berto should fight at least a class A/B fighters and prove himself: Ortiz, Bradley, Alexander, Khan, Malignaggi, Maidana, Williams LOL

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                  • sigrab jr
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                    #189
                    Originally posted by chav
                    i totally understand and hear where arum is coming from...manny wants X amount of cash and berto simply doesnt bring sweet F.A to the table, so why does he get a shot when there are others....doesnt meant i agree with it, but i understand why.

                    mosley is finished and unless he gets some serious PEDS then i really dont want to see the fight. i didnt want to see marquez fight pacman as i thought pacman would be just too much, but after watching the katsidis fight twice i would love to see manny get to 140 and fight marquez over berto or mosley...but it seems bob arum is going to do what bob arum wants to do and that is make mosley pacman. shame.
                    But Diaz[2008] and Golden Boy Clottey[2010] brought in an astronomical amount of money to the table.

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                    • jdp5877
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                      #190
                      No Need Marquez-Pacquiao-3

                      The truth is, Marquez is not even a big seller in the Mexican market, certainly nothing like (Erik) Morales, (Marco Antonio) Barrera were or even anywhere near as popular as (Nov. 13 Pacman foe Antonio) Margarito. Frankly, Marquez does not compare to any of the three. I don't know it is because they were more extroverted in personality or more balls out type fighters of what.”
                      • JMM claiming victory over Pacquiao? What an insult to all those 6 judges in the 2 previous fights! He was knocked down 4 times and he didn't even score any knockdown on Pacman and he's claiming he won them???
                      Now, he's asking for another rematch based on what?... his win over Katsidis??? This guy is not even close to the category of Pacquiao! Katsidis’ stock also rose as he showed he’s not a world class fighter with no good power. I am sorry to tell you, but it’s true he is only for tune up fight for a world class fighter.
                      He's also saying Pacquiao won over washed-up fighters-- another insult! He is saying: Defending LightWeight Champ David Diaz and JuniorWelterweight Champ Hatton and Cotto, etc. are washed up? Those are highly rated fighters than Katsidis who is not even a previous world champ, and he insulted them just to discredit Pacquiao's victories?!! Well, JMM will be 37 if ever they meet next year. What will he say if he loses to the PACMAN: He lost because he was given the rematch when he was already old and washed-up??? He wont even stand a chance against Cotto and Hatton!
                      Now, he's asking for another match but at his terms, hahaha! He wants to fight at his choice of weight: at 140-144! They've met before already and Pacquiao did not grow taller nor grow longer reach... what is wrong in fighting at 147 since Pacquiao is already there and he is the challenger? So, now, he is already looking an easy excuse if the fight goes thru and HE LOSES! I wont be surprised if he will again say he won even if the judges say he LOST! He might as well ask for a match WITHOUT ANY JUDGES!!!
                      • Out of all the opponents that are calling out Manny Paquiao, Its going to be a Paquiao Vs. Mosley for 2011....Mosley's the most Marketable opponent out there besides Mayweather Jr.

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