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  • Mr. Fantastic
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    #41
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    You're actually right with that.

    Arum is a better promoter. Be doing it for decades.

    And, Pac is an ATG top 50 somewhere while JMM and Oscar are arguably not even ATG's... First ballot HOF'er? Sure ATG? eh arguably not even top 100 material
    Yet you haven't seen a lot of those ATGs fight I bet. I'll admit, I haven't. So I can't really base an ATG list based on "articles".

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    • indystress
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      #42
      Originally posted by devildg
      Boxing is a business...or does that excuse only apply for Mayweather?
      being that the 2nd pac/marquez fight did only 400,000 ppv sales...do you think aaum would consider another 400,000...or go with mosley and maybe get 1million ppv sales out of that? looks obvious to me, in business sense, its the fight with mosley

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      • ModernTalking
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        #43
        GoldenBoy will say that Oscar vs Pac never took place. Richard is willing to take a lie detector test to proof it.

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        • LeadUppercut
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          #44
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          You're actually right with that.

          Arum is a better promoter. Be doing it for decades.

          And, Pac is an ATG top 50 somewhere while JMM and Oscar are arguably not even ATG's... First ballot HOF'er? Sure ATG? eh arguably not even top 100 material
          Now you sound like an absolute ******.

          Bob Arum cares about one thing, and that is Bob Arum. He doesn;t give a **** about boxing, and he will feed Manny to the sharks when he has finished with him

          So, you would let the best child ******er in the world babysit your daughter huh? Simply because he is the best, even if it is not in your best interests? Fair enough, pac-boy.

          Juan Manuel Marquez is a better fighter than Manny will ever be.

          And, he did not need steroids to get there.

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          • SceneSpectator!
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            #45
            I would say Arum is checked-mate by GBP moves and i want to see this also happening to settle their closed fights results previously once again, however, if JMM showed his unsportsmanship by not acknowledging the results of their two debacles, then this is no way will gonna happen.
            Last edited by SceneSpectator!; 11-28-2010, 09:27 PM.

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            • jrosales13
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              #46
              Originally posted by LeadUppercut
              He took what Manny owed him, so fkn what ?

              A hypocrite, now let me see.....
              A hypocrite would be somebody who holds a JMW title, and yet would not dare to fight an actual JMW That would be a hypocrite alright.

              Or, a hypocrite.....
              would be somebody who calls themself P4P, and yet demands a catchweight of 145 to fight Cotto, and yet would also demand 147 to fight Marquez.

              GTFOH !!

              The fact that Manny demanded a catch-weight of 145 for Cotto, and yet will not fight Marquez unless the fight is held at 147..... is priceless

              NEW SLOGAN :
              Team Pacquiao..... p1ss-scared of Marquez since 2004
              It is clear with this post that you're an idiot.

              Should we start also downgrading Oscar career? Did he have no catch-weight fights whatsoever? Really? Should we talk about how an old JCC got a rematch however Whitaker nor Quartey could get one? Why was that? JCC got a beatdown in the first fight what was the point in fighting him again? Maybe that is why right? Because, JCC got a beatdown the first time while Whitaker and Quartey arguably won?

              I mean a hypocrite would be somebody who would say I would never Vargas, I would never give him the payday, when Vargas is look like El Feroz. But, then Vargas chins get crack and arguably ruined by Tito, get dropped again by soft puncher in River, so chin was definitely cracked by Tito looks so so against "Shibata" Flores. And, now El Feroz is not really looking Ferocious and now Oscar wants to give him the payday? Really? Not when he was beating the likes of Campas, Winky, and Quartey but when he was getting KO'd dropped and looking eh... That is when? OK....

              He wasn't a hypocrite right when he says I will fight the winner of Cotto-Margarito. But, when Marg wins and looks indestructible he then backs out and tries to cherry pick a LW who was only a LW for ONE fight and has him move up two divisions to fight....

              He is the one who said "Pac doesn't hit that hard at all. He is just fast but not a power puncher."(paraphrasing) And, then when the OST thing came out with Floyd. He goes and says "Wow... yea Pac hit just as hard as Shane and Vargas did, so it makes you wonder..."(Paraphrasing) Yea those two statements were not hypocritical at all right?

              Oscar De la Hoya is the biggest hypocrite and most overrated fighter in the last 10 years.

              GTFOH with trying to romanticize Oscar.

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              • jrosales13
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                #47
                Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic
                Yet you haven't seen a lot of those ATGs fight I bet. I'll admit, I haven't. So I can't really base an ATG list based on "articles".
                OK and?

                Anyways, neither really are ATG's... And, arguably both are not in the top 100 in most respectable list.... First ballot HOF'ers? Sure, ATG's? No...

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                • jrosales13
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by LeadUppercut
                  Now you sound like an absolute ******.

                  Bob Arum cares about one thing, and that is Bob Arum. He doesn;t give a **** about boxing, and he will feed Manny to the sharks when he has finished with him

                  So, you would let the best child ******er in the world babysit your daughter huh? Simply because he is the best, even if it is not in your best interests? Fair enough, pac-boy.

                  Juan Manuel Marquez is a better fighter than Manny will ever be.

                  And, he did not need steroids to get there.
                  You're acting like Oscar is not about that? GTFOH... Why the **** do you think he wants to monopolize boxing? Don't be naive...

                  JMM being the better fighter it is disputable since they had both close fights. But, Manny is the greater fighter.

                  How do you know JMM didn't do steroids? How do you know Pac did? What about Oscar? What is up with that waiver? Are you an idiot? is not about me being a fan boy. Is about you being a straight hater.

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                  • black knight
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by flint
                    pac is ducking jmm simple and plain
                    ...is that the reason why jmm looks like a DUCK after sitting and lying down on the canvass four times courtesy of a pacquiao simple jab??? hehehe

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                    • EL_cano
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                      #50
                      this thread sucks. im going to watch Pacquiao brutalize delafishnets.

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