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  • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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    #41
    Originally posted by Tomislav III
    I always thought that stringbean was being overrated. How the hell does he even come close to deserving JuanMaLo or the Cuban? What has he ever done? Beat midgets and Ponce De Leon - who I love, but doesn't deserve that title shot really either.
    Come on man LOL...He KO'd Molitor is his home country...beat De Leon...these havent exactly proven to be the easiest assignments in history...

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    • Hitman932
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      #42
      Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
      Come on man LOL...He KO'd Molitor is his home country...beat De Leon...these havent exactly proven to be the easiest assignments in history...
      I agree. Caballero is no pushover. He also shutout Yordan (who I never thought was any good) but was once regarded as a hot prospect because he looked good against Robert Guerrero for 2 rounds before the fight was waved off.

      It's annoying when fans immediately want to talk about what the losing fighter "didn't do" and not what the winner was able to accomplish.

      Everyone wants to look at this fight right away and say that Caballero should get a rematch and all he has to do it prepare better to win.

      I have to disagree and I am betting that Caballero goes elsewhere for his next opponent. Litzau will be a much better fighter from this experience and he will watch the fight and see that he had many more opportunities he could have capitalized on and maybe stopped Caballero.

      If these two fight again Litzau will start the 1st round with the confidence that he ended the 10th round of the first fight with and that's bad news for Caballero.

      A guy who has always depended on his height should have known better than to move up in weight and fight a man who is very tall for that weight.

      He made a mistake and maybe he didn't prepare properly, whatever, he obviously has become stagnant as a fighter whereas Litzau is a guy who has humbled himself and just as obviously made some significant improvements.

      There was already an obvious gap in guts and boxing skills in favor of Litzau, that gap is only going to grow with the passage of time.

      Run this fight back in 6 months and Caballero will get knocked out.

      Of course I don't believe Cabellero will want to make that fight.

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      • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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        #43
        VERY GOOD post, my man!!!!

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        • M3RRY
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          #44
          J did a great job, I loved the fact that Cab lost.. However he did look sloppy, I give all the credit to J for being the better fighter that night, he showed a lot of heart.. Cabs punches were getting very wild and J took advantage of that.. good fight to watch.

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          • johnm is...
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            #45
            Was on Litzau @ +925. Posted in the ******** thread in the lounge (before the fight).

            Originally posted by johnm
            I put a small bit on Litzau @ +925.

            Also on Ward by decision @ -165

            Need Marquez to win to bring in a parlay that I'm on.
            Cong**** to Litzau. He did his thing.

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            • TheGreatA
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              #46
              He fought well. I thought his recent fight against Juarez showed he has come back a better fighter after his losses. Not entirely surprised that he managed a close one over Caballero who has been in a couple of struggles in the past.

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              • THE REED
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                #47
                Just watched the recent interview with him.

                It is undoubted that his speech is slightly slurred... not real bad, but it's there..

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                • The Hammer
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                  #48
                  Good thread, Iceman.

                  Hopefully Jason, who was paid only $50,000 for the fight, will finally receive a decent payday now.

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                  • BOLLOCKS
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                    #49
                    Another great win for the white race.

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                    • Eaner0919
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                      #50
                      [quote=ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY;9687177][quote=Eaner0919;9686374]sorry but this fight was misleading

                      he still got hit plenty from a guy who took this fight for granted and


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                      He got hit...because its a professional boxing match..he didnt get any more than a million other guys do..and greater fighters have gotten hit WAY MORE than he did
                      stop with the cliches

                      looking at his reaction when he got hit still tells me he is worse for wear and IMO in a dangerous position where he got a good win against a sloppy guy who YES took his opponent for granted

                      ...and Caballero took it for granted? THATS what we're going to with now? Someone suggested thats the reason and now everybody will just run with it and repeat it is fact????? How about the guy got beat by a better fighter?
                      look I understand you know the guy, know his potential, always hoped he would put it together yadda yadda

                      you act like no one has ever seen Litzau before

                      he was a Roy Jones clone who used his physical talent (generally being faster than his opponent) to make a name for himself. Once he started escalating up the ladder and the talent became better then we started seeing what would happen. He got clobbered by Hernandez who was nothing more than a fun action fighter then by Guerrero.

                      and yes while he has a win over Juarez that wasn't to say he did anything of note in that fight. Both guys looked like crap in that before the cut stopped the fight.

                      and you're ignoring the one aspect I have brought up in this and in prior threads discussing him

                      he is slurring badly

                      here is an interview from 4 years ago



                      now from Saturday



                      you mean to tell me this is the same guy?

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