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  • cleaner147
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    #21
    in all fairness, after Cabas last performances I was not seeing him as a favorit esp as he was moving up 2 weight division to fight a guy for his biggest fight on TV.

    that wasnt an upset. (maybe odds wise)

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    • -Kev-
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      #22
      Originally posted by reedickyaluss
      Not even close to a 50-50.... I've been following Litzau for about 4+ years now.. The Guerrero knockout was devastating... I don't know about 13-1, but he was and should of been a big underdog in this fight..
      I just never thought highly of Caballero. His resume is nothing to make you go wow. So I personally saw it as an even fight. But I didn't know about the stoppages before this fight. If I knew I would have probably had Caballero. So in a way, i'm glad I didn't know about Litzau's losses. Because it made me excited to see an "even" match up. I don't like seeing fights where, I think I know who's going to win.

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      • Uturn
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        #23
        I laughed when people referred to him as a C level fighter after beating Cab decisively. He is a decent fighter, he can give top opposition a good fight.

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        • TheSurgeonMDMPH
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          #24
          Huge JL fan here! Still didn't really think he would UD, maybe a KO. But, definitely not a full 12.

          Cong****.

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            #25
            Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
            Listen...JASON LITZAU...everybody had him getting KO'd in this fight in less than 5 rounds...I'll give myself some credit and say that I have been saying for several years that Jason has the potential to beat the very top guys if he fought his fight, if he could ever REALLY put it together like those of us who have known since he was in the junior olympics knew he had the potential to do...last night he was in with the most dangerous opponent of his career and very very few gave him a chance...actually I dont recall seeing anyone actually say they wee betting on him to win (not that you didn't, I just didn't read it)...NOW that he has shocked so many people you have people saying Caballero didnt train etc etc....COME ON, dont do that...people always look to explain away something they didnt believe could happen...not fair to J at all...give the kid credit, he went in there with a guy EVERYBODY said was gonna kill him and he won, PERIOD...anyone???
            Major Probs!

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            • -Boxzilla-
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              #26
              litzau is a decent fighter with a poor chin ... i thought the fight was a draw but he def deserves props. as for caballero ive heard people say that caballero is a great fighter when facing guys he has huge size advantages on, but the ones his own size he has trouble with. this statement really seems to be true.

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              • Evil Abed
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                #27
                I was one of the only people that gave Litzau a shot.

                My final prediction before the fight was Litzua by SD.

                You can go check if you want.

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                • TheMexHurricane
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
                  Listen...JASON LITZAU...everybody had him getting KO'd in this fight in less than 5 rounds...I'll give myself some credit and say that I have been saying for several years that Jason has the potential to beat the very top guys if he fought his fight, if he could ever REALLY put it together like those of us who have known since he was in the junior olympics knew he had the potential to do...last night he was in with the most dangerous opponent of his career and very very few gave him a chance...actually I dont recall seeing anyone actually say they wee betting on him to win (not that you didn't, I just didn't read it)...NOW that he has shocked so many people you have people saying Caballero didnt train etc etc....COME ON, dont do that...people always look to explain away something they didnt believe could happen...not fair to J at all...give the kid credit, he went in there with a guy EVERYBODY said was gonna kill him and he won, PERIOD...anyone???
                  Caballero's legs in the 5th against Litzau looked like Rafa Marquez' legs did in the 5th against JuanMa. Cab's and Rafa Marquez' leg's were gone waaaaay before they took enough punishment for them to be gone in their respective fights--the question is why. In Rafa's case the commentator's were saying something like he was taking over and I knew he wasn't and that he would need a quick KO that didn't come.

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                  • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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                    #29
                    J was DEFINITELY a huge underdog...also, though, I dont exactly with saying he has a weak chin..i definitely think his chin is better at 130 and 135 than it was at 126...kind of like Chris Byrd's was better at heavyweight than it was at 175...weight loss definitely can affect the ability to take punches...

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                    • Eaner0919
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
                      Listen...JASON LITZAU...everybody had him getting KO'd in this fight in less than 5 rounds...I'll give myself some credit and say that I have been saying for several years that Jason has the potential to beat the very top guys if he fought his fight


                      sorry but this fight was misleading

                      he still got hit plenty from a guy who took this fight for granted and

                      he still slurs something awful

                      you want to see him go against the best thats your call but I don't unless it secures his future because he is still a cause for concern

                      if he could ever REALLY put it together like those of us who have known since he was in the junior olympics knew he had the potential to do...
                      maybe but considering his prime was some time ago and a lot of the physical attributes that made him intriguing are gone.

                      he is still an open target

                      l
                      ast night he was in with the most dangerous opponent of his career
                      I give that distinction to Ghost Guerrero

                      and very very few gave him a chance...actually I dont recall seeing anyone actually say they wee betting on him to win (not that you didn't, I just didn't read it)
                      with good reason

                      ...NOW that he has shocked so many people you have people saying Caballero didnt train etc etc....COME ON, dont do that...people always look to explain away something they didnt believe could happen.
                      um maybe because that's exactly what happened

                      most who have actually seen Caballero fight know this was a crappy version of him and judging from the way 1. he couldn't make weight initially and 2. he ballooned 15lbs heavier than his weigh in weight are good indications he did not train very hard for this. I mean damn he gained the same amount of weight as did Margarito who was a full 20lbs bigger than him

                      ..not fair to J at all...give the kid credit, he went in there with a guy EVERYBODY said was gonna kill him and he won, PERIOD...anyone???
                      I do but let's not jsut sweep everything under the table like it never happened or that it's still not a concern

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