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  • BennyST
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    #41
    Originally posted by Ekscape
    Marquez is one of two of my favorite fighters ever, but at this point I don't wanna see him fight Pacquiao... Pacquiao is to much for Dinamita now even at 144
    Yeah, I agree. In his prime he always gives Pac hell or beats him but by the time they fight now he'll be 38 years old! He's not nearly as quick, sharp etc and he was in his prime and his reflexes and defense have slowed enough that moving up to 147 to fight a guy in his prime years and a good weight for him would be very hard.

    The sad thing is that if Pac beats him, and I imagine he will more convincingly than before, people will remember him as having clearly won the trilogy and yet he will be facing an old, past prime version of a guy that would always give him serious trouble in his prime. Making Marquez move up to 147 is as BS as it gets. Pac would have absolutely no trouble whatsoever making 140, as Ariza and Roach always harp on about who easy he could do it when facing bigger guys, and yet in this fight they are now switching their stance as suits them and saying Pac is a 147 pounder and they don't want to drain him by going to 140? It's a damn joke.

    Marquez should not fight above 140. It takes too much out of him and there is not enough left for him to really be the same as before anyway. This was a hard fight for him and being nearly forty years old, plus moving up again, to fight a guy that's still in his prime, as he was in their last fight while Marquez was just starting to move to the other side of prime, would prove a bit too much.

    Whatever the case, I think we'll keep seeing Pac fighting old guys like Mosley or Marquez (Marquez is obviously still in better shape than Mosley who is now just plain shot and wouldn't prove a damn thing, but Marquez is still coming on forty years old and has been in tough fight after tough fight in recent years) or guys coming off bad losses. Before he retires he needs to prove something more than what he has so far if people are going to keep calling him an ATG of the caliber that people say he is. As it stands, he doesn't belong with the ATG guys who his fans believe he does.

    While a Marquez fight would be good, all it does is prove he can beat a past it version of Marquez while he's still in his prime and that he would always struggle with a prime version. If anyone thinks he's still ins his prime, well, you don't know ****.

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    • craybac
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      #42
      Fight Pacquiao at 147

      If Marquez really pursue a third fight with Pacquiao he should fight Pacquiao at 147 lbs., if Marquez insist @ 147 lbs. then he is the one making an excuses...who is Marquez anyway he doesn't have 8 wonders of the world. The reality is, Marquez is very jealous with Pacquiao. Who is Marquez that Pacquiao will go for 142 or 144?

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      • spoonwars
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        #43
        Originally posted by Mr Reality
        JMM is still a tough guy. I just don't see him being as effective past Lightweight, too bad Pac wussed out at Lifgweight when it would have been a good fight.
        Nah, Pac went up in weight to beat down guys JMM didn't dare to face. Of course JMM fought a girl beater at welterweight, but he did it strictly for the big money... OHHH WAIT, THAT'S THE SAME KIND OF THING YOU'RE ACCUSING PAC FOR WUSSYING OUT - at least Pac didn't get demolished in the process like JMM.

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          #44
          Originally posted by black knight
          I pity marquez...he must be out of his mind...his style of begging for a big payday with pacquiao is somewhat of a delusional kind...he can say what he wants but the world knows he lost twice against pacquiao.
          Actually, the world knows that he more than likely won both fights, otherwise no one would want to see them do it again. If he had lost both fights, and everyone thought that, no one would bother with talking about it.

          As it stands though, he just doesn't have it anymore. He's still great, but not as great as he used to be while Pac is still in his prime. Six years younger than Marquez and by the time they fight,if they do, he will be pushing 40 years old. It's too much this time around after having to move up to 147 if the ****s make him do that. Not worth it to have NSB *******s saying he deserved to lose or calling him a piss drinking **** when we are seeing the end of one of the modern eras greatest warriors. **** me, but the people around here are douche bags. Can't see a warrior worth more pennies than 99% of other fighters today if it slapped them in the face.

          Reading this thread is sad though. Reading what people have written makes you look like such little ****.

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          • BennyST
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            #45
            Originally posted by spoonwars
            Nah, Pac went up in weight to beat down guys JMM didn't dare to face. Of course JMM fought a girl beater at welterweight, but he did it strictly for the big money... OHHH WAIT, THAT'S THE SAME KIND OF THING YOU'RE ACCUSING PAC FOR WUSSYING OUT - at least Pac didn't get demolished in the process like JMM.

            Really? When did Pac not get demolished by Mayweather? Oh, that's right, they haven't fought yet.

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            • Mr Reality
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              #46
              Originally posted by spoonwars
              Nah, Pac went up in weight to beat down guys JMM didn't dare to face. Of course JMM fought a girl beater at welterweight, but he did it strictly for the big money... OHHH WAIT, THAT'S THE SAME KIND OF THING YOU'RE ACCUSING PAC FOR WUSSYING OUT - at least Pac didn't get demolished in the process like JMM.

              JMM has never been KO'd like your god Pac just a fact. Fact is Pac avoided JMM vs Pac III just like he is avoiding Martinez vs Pac @ Super WW. Quack, Quack Quack.

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              • spoonwars
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                #47
                Originally posted by craybac
                If Marquez really pursue a third fight with Pacquiao he should fight Pacquiao at 147 lbs., if Marquez insist @ 147 lbs. then he is the one making an excuses...who is Marquez anyway he doesn't have 8 wonders of the world. The reality is, Marquez is very jealous with Pacquiao. Who is Marquez that Pacquiao will go for 142 or 144?
                Pac can easily make 140 to accommodate the death wish of Marquez. 147 must be a negotiation ploy.

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                • MACAQUEINBLACK
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                  #48
                  LOOOOOOOOOOOOL, JMM is that dude.


                  STAR.

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                  • spoonwars
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Mr Reality
                    JMM has never been KO'd like your god Pac just a fact. Fact is Pac avoided JMM vs Pac III just like he is avoiding Martinez vs Pac @ Super WW. Quack, Quack Quack.
                    You still living up the days when Pac was still a one dimensional fighter? BTW, those KOs you're still dreaming about happened BEFORE Pac knocked down Marquez 4 times -- and Pac was still a one dimensional fighter at the time.

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                    • LeadUppercut
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by black knight
                      IF juana manuela beats pacquiao twice, why is she begging for a third fight with pacquiao??? she is just contradicting herself...a cry baby girl has no place in a man's sport...
                      Which is why I cant wait until you little ***wits are gone.

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