if sergio wants pac, 150 is where its at...

[jrosales13]

oh please, save that officer jro power trip of yours if you cant show a forum badge motha***a..lol...how is 154 fair for both when pac at 150 was already giving away so much of a size advantage...yeah he beat margo at 150 , but he was still way too small, how how much more at 154?....

You keep changing it are you worried about the official or unofficial weigh-in?

[Khalid X]

This fight only makes sense at 154-155. Anything higher or lower is just a waste of time.

[Zerwas1]

freddie roach said pac is a natural ww.

do you know manny's body better than freddie does?

Roach says a lot of stuff if it makes sense to make $/interest/publicity/and more at that point of time.

Most welterweights come in around 155- 163 at fight night

[puga]

Is garbage to assume because you're assuming at 154 Martinez will rehydrate to 168 while Pac would rehydrate to 148. Fact is we do not know how much it would be. And, if we're talking about unofficial fight night weight then again Martinez will weigh around the same amount that Marg and Clottey did. So what is the problem? Think logically mofo!



THEN DON'T FIGHT HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is that simple...If you only just want to fight him at 150 then just don't fight him. It is 154 or more or just no fight. Should not be hard to understand. Anything lower Pac doesn't deserve any credit and it will be a sham.

And, Pac doesn't have to weigh 154, Martinez does but not Pac. Manny didn't feel effective weighing 150 so he came in at 144. Pac can weigh-in at 144 or 145 or whatever weight he feels comfortable in.

based on their history a 20 lb size difference is pretty accurate, it cant be too far from that.....since you dont think so , why dont you give an EDUCATED guess of how much the size difference would be between them if it happens at 154?....i wanna hear it

dont fight him?.....it's sergio who wants a huge payday with pac not the other way around....if sergi dont want it at pac's maximum limit then he should stfu about fighting pac...

same thing with martinez, he does'nt have to come in at 150 com fight, he can rehydrate to as much as he wants...margo' done healthly , why cant he if he works harder than usual?....

[puga]

You keep changing it are you worried about the official or unofficial weigh-in?

i dont excatly know what youre looking for man but ive stated my case at both already......

[puga]

Pac can easily make 140...

ok...we're getting something here.....pac can easily drop 4 lbs but sergio cant and he's the bigger guy?.....remeber he was a jmw not too long ago, 154 minus 4 pounds is 150.....

[jrosales13]

based on their history a 20 lb size difference is pretty accurate, it cant be too far from that.....since you dont think so , why dont you give an EDUCATED guess of how much the size difference would be between them if it happens at 154?....i wanna hear it

I already gave you one in post 22 I think it is go back and look.

dont fight him?.....it's sergio who wants a huge payday with pac not the other way around....

Do not fight him, yes is Martinez who is calling him out, but Pac deserves every criticism he would get by wanting and signing to fight Martinez anything lower than 154. No credit if he doesn't want to fight at a lower weight and he should just give up his belt immediately. Which he will...

But, if it is not at 154 don't fight him, so what that Martinez is calling him out just don't fight him. It would be a waste of time that Pac would deserve no credit for.

if sergi dont want it at pac's maximum limit then he should stfu about fighting pac...

Same thing can be turn around on team Pac. If they won't fight Martinez at a weight that he is comfortable in making then just STFU about how Pac would beat him.

same thing with martinez, he does'nt have to come in at 150 com fight, he can rehydrate to as much as he wants...margo' done healthly , why cant he if he works harder than usual?....

If it is at 150 he would have to officially weigh-in at 150. How do you know he would not work harder than usual to just make 154? You do know he wanted to fight Angulo at 155 right? If it was easy for him to make if he just had to work harder than usual then he would of fought him at 154. But, just fighting that low apparently is making him "work harder than usual" you simpleton.

And, yes Marg could make 150 healthy that is why he wasn't drained. Martinez can't make it healthy. He will be drained severely. And, it would make you proud of Pac to fight a drained Martinez? You're not a real Pac fan then....

A real Pac fan would want Pac to fight the best an idiot like yourself wants Pac NOT to enhance his legacy and just fight weight drained fighters.

[jrosales13]

ok...we're getting something here.....pac can easily drop 4 lbs but sergio cant and he's the bigger guy?.....remeber he was a jmw not too long ago, 154 minus 4 pounds is 150.....

Pac own words was he "TRIED TO PUT ON WEIGHT" and still only weighed in at 144 for a 150 fight. He tried to put on weight not lose weight but put on weight. That is quite different from somebody trying to lose like Martinez would try to do. Do you get the difference or are you just being an idiot?

Martinez in his last 3 fights have been at 157+, Martinez didn't even feel comfortably going to 154 for Angulo... We not talking about 4 pounds here, we're talking about 7 pounds.

Remember Pac weight 138 not to long ago, So why not just dropped those 3 pounds and fight at 135 against JMM?

F'ing idiot, stop with your double standards. It is clear that you do not want Pac to enhance his legacy. His true fans like myself want Pac to fight the best not drained or overblown fighters. That is just a waste of time

[puga]

I already gave you one in post 22 I think it is go back and look.



Do not fight him, yes is Martinez who is calling him out, but Pac deserves every criticism he would get by wanting and signing to fight Martinez anything lower than 154. No credit if he doesn't want to fight at a lower weight and he should just give up his belt immediately. Which he will...

But, if it is not at 154 don't fight him, so what that Martinez is calling him out just don't fight him. It would be a waste of time that Pac would deserve no credit for.



Same thing can be turn around on team Pac. If they won't fight Martinez at a weight that he is comfortable in making then just STFU about how Pac would beat him.



If it is at 150 he would have to officially weigh-in at 150. How do you know he would not work harder than usual to just make 154? You do know he wanted to fight Angulo at 155 right? If it was easy for him to make if he just had to work harder than usual then he would of fought him at 154. But, just fighting that low apparently is making him "work harder than usual" you simpleton.

And, yes Marg could make 150 healthy that is why he wasn't drained. Martinez can't make it healthy. He will be drained severely. And, it would make you proud of Pac to fight a drained Martinez? You're not a real Pac fan then....

A real Pac fan would want Pac to fight the best an idiot like yourself wants Pac NOT to enhance his legacy and just fight weight drained fighters.

i cant find it man....you said theres no way of knowin....all im asking is you to give an educated gues of how muc weight difference btween sergio and pac (154 official weigh in) at fight night?...martinez desrves ctriticism too for picking on lil pac, that bad enough but demanding for a higher weight than pac's highest is even worse....idiots would b sayin he was weight drain anyways if sergio losses, what your point....pac says he cant do it above 150, why is that too hard to accept?....

[jrosales13]

i cant find it man....you said theres no way of knowin....all im asking is you to give an educated gues of how muc weight difference btween sergio and pac (154 official weigh in) at fight night?...martinez desrves ctriticism too for picking on lil pac, that bad enough but demanding for a higher weight than pac's highest is even worse....idiots would b sayin he was weight drain anyways if sergio losses, what your point....pac says he cant do it above 150, why is that too hard to accept?....

My educated guess if it is at 154. I think Martinez will re-hydrate and weigh around the same that Clottey and Margarito did. That is just an educated guess.

No Martinez doesn't deserve any criticism at all.

So what that idiots would say he was weight drained at 154. He could make that comfortably. However, at 150 then yes he would be weight drained

It is not hard to accept that is why I am not calling for the fight. I understand both sides you moron something you should too. However, if we talking about where is the both will be at there best it is at 154. Because one Pac doesn't have to go all the way up to 154 and 154 would be as low as Martinez can make healthy. So it is fair.

I however no this fight will never happen and not calling it. I just think it is ridiculous for idiots to try and call for it but at 150. While 154 is fair... I personally would like it to be at 155 or higher just so the MW title can be on the line. But, again I want Pac to enhance his legacy not really diminish but I am a true Pac fan not like others.