if sergio wants pac, 150 is where its at...

[OpaiSoma]

You're nothing but a coward if you believe any of that.


Pac is Jmw champ.

154 or GTFO.

Are you trying to make a point on the belt because u are right at some point its a paper title.

But Pac is not a 154, and he shouldnt be fighting that high.

Realisticly he is a 140lbs fighting at 147 division.

[jrosales13]

so is floyd, you dumbass. he fought DLH at 154 and did it with no complaints

if pac is such a great and tru champ, he can do it too but he wont

Don't compare an old Oscar who was just done pretty much as a fighter and was the shot caller. To Martinez who is at the top of his game and not the shot caller that Oscar was.

This is 2 totally different cases and scenarios not comparable at all really.

[OpaiSoma]

Don't compare an old Oscar who was just done pretty much as a fighter and was the shot caller. To Martinez who is at the top of his game and not the shot caller that Oscar was.

This is 2 totally different cases and scenarios not comparable at all really.

Fallacy "if A, then B; B, therefore A". There's no point making a conversation with an idiot.

[Gino Ros]

pac is a natural jww......

freddie roach said pac is a natural ww.

do you know manny's body better than freddie does?

[puga]

What are you talking about? Official weigh-in or unofficial weigh-in?

It seems since your little garbage ass theory of the unofficial weigh-in of Martinez being 20lbs bigger on fight night holds no water since Clottey and Marg was around the same pounds heavier. You want to switch it now to official weigh-in. Cool so lets not mention the fight night weight and how much bigger Martinez will be... OK? And, BTW if the fight was at 154 Martinez would probably rehydrate back to 164-167. But, who knows, who is to say?

Pac technically is the WBC JMW title holder correct? It is one thing to win the title at a catch-weight but then to just keep on defending it at a catch-weight than that is a problem. How can you not see that? Would you also condone Pac to defend his title at 150 against Cotto? k9? Or this only works for Martinez?

Why not just create a new weight-class of 150? Or 144?

Fight at 154 of higher against Martinez or just no fight period. Do not call Martinez out at 150. That is just idiotic, is OK just don't fight him if that is the case. Anything lower than 154 Pac deserves no credit.

how is it garbage to assume pac would be 20 lbs smaller if th fight happens at 154 when he was 17 lbs smaller already at 150 and some of you mofos believe that sergio is way bigger than margo....think logically mofo!

yes pac is a a 154 title holder but he aint a legit 154 lber....martinez was not too long ago tho...pac plans on going bak to ww coz he does'nt feel comfy at jmw, how the hell is he gonna fight sergio fairly if not at CW given he feels he would'nt be effective at 154?...try to shorten your response next time please so nothing gets missed out!

[OpaiSoma]

freddie roach said pac is a natural ww.

do you know manny's body better than freddie does?

since your an expert of a mans body can you share your input on which division should pac belong?

[tibbar]

please believe if floyd fought Sergio, he would fight him at 154. thats something we would have to worry about

quit living in fantasy land your boy is nowhere to be found, just go away or find somebody elses deeck to ride.

[puga]

That is just a very idiotic way of thinking...

That is not a bigger garbage at all. That is just fair... You just a garbage poster that is what it is.

oh please, save that officer jro power trip of yours if you cant show a forum badge motha***a..lol...how is 154 fair for both when pac at 150 was already giving away so much of a size advantage...yeah he beat margo at 150 , but he was still way too small, how how much more at 154?....

[jrosales13]

how is it garbage to assume pac would be 20 lbs smaller if th fight happens at 154 when he was 17 lbs smaller already at 150 and some of you mofos believe that sergio is way bigger than margo....think logically mofo!

Is garbage to assume because you're assuming at 154 Martinez will rehydrate to 168 while Pac would rehydrate to 148. Fact is we do not know how much it would be. And, if we're talking about unofficial fight night weight then again Martinez will weigh around the same amount that Marg and Clottey did. So what is the problem? Think logically mofo!

yes pac is a a 154 title holder but he aint a legit 154 lber....martinez was not too long ago tho...pac plans on going bak to ww coz he does'nt feel comfy at jmw, how the hell is he gonna fight sergio fairly if not at CW given he feels he would'nt be effective at 154?...try to shorten your response next time please so nothing gets missed out!

THEN DON'T FIGHT HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is that simple...If you only just want to fight him at 150 then just don't fight him. It is 154 or more or just no fight. Should not be hard to understand. Anything lower Pac doesn't deserve any credit and it will be a sham.

And, Pac doesn't have to weigh 154, Martinez does but not Pac. Manny didn't feel effective weighing 150 so he came in at 144. Pac can weigh-in at 144 or 145 or whatever weight he feels comfortable in.

[jrosales13]

freddie roach said pac is a natural ww.

do you know manny's body better than freddie does?

Pac can easily make 140...