Comments Thread For: Jeff Mayweather: Martinez Not Better Than Pacquiao, Floyd

[Moop]

Jeff speaks the truth, the fact that Martinez is no.3 p4p is more indicative of the waste land that is elite boxing than Martinez's skill set.

When was the last time Williams or Pavlik looked any good?

Pac and Floyd are light years ahead him.

A few good performances against world classed opposition, but no need to get carried away.

[boxingfan76]

Trainer Jeff Mayweather spoke with BoxingScene.com about last Saturday's fight between Sergio Martinez and Paul Williams. The fight ended shockingly when Martinez used a single left hand to knock Williams out in the second round. Since the win, Martinez is being measured up against the two best pound for pound fighters in the sport, Jeff's nephew Floyd Mayweather Jr., and Manny Pacquiao.

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martinez absolutey is better than fraud jr or pacroid because hes fought better competetion, frankly competetion both of those pretenders have ducked.neither dude wanted paul wiliams and williams is very much a welterweight.just look at who manny fights and look at who mayweather fights theres your answer right there to remove any doubts........

[WESS]

Come on haters get on your job and hate, nothing has changed!

Nonsense, every Mayweather speaks shyt remember? We can't jump on the bandwagon of Jeff Mayweather making sense all of a sudden because he said Pac's technical skills are better than Martinez's.. lol silly clowns. He's talking BS again....... as always. He's a Mayweather remember?

Sergio has come a long way and I've seen the transformation in the past few years. I've been watching this dude for some time now. He's getting better and better and I knew his time would come.... Now he just needs to get his name out there and calling out "the man" who holds or was "handed" (plaster free) his "title" that he was forced to drop is the way to do it! Along with calling Floyd out over and over! Maybe do a USTREAM video or something about Floyd making fun of him.

Anyway with Pac, it's NOT Sergio's problem what so ever if Pac cant make weight (small JMW) just as it wasn't Pac's problem that Hoya couldn't make weight (dehydrated) just as it wasn't Torrecampo's problem that Pac couldn't make weight (came in overweight)! It's NOT our fault either.

Pac is great, but in terms of "technical" abilities Martinez is greater. Pac is no technical fighter. He is a come forward "hyper" brawler who has been "selecting" fighters to make himself look good. Sure, he can jump in and jump out, side step and counter punch with angles vs a slow moving flat footed (exposed) target but put him in with a fighter that has elite speed and GREAT defensive technical skills and you will see Pac look like a confused clown. But hey it will be "exciting" right?

Point is, EVERYONE bashes the Mayweather clan.... be persistent about it. Jeff is no different and like everyone always bashes everything else the Mayweather's say this time is no different.

Come on haters get on your job and hate. Call him ******, or dumb. Or that he speaks lies or something. Anything childish as usual......

[SCEN3RY]

I agree with some of what Jeff is saying...this is coming from a guy that predicted Martinez beat Williams, I just think Pavlik and Williams were tailor made to come straight forward. There's nothing wrong with those wins, there just not as big as some of you are making them out to be. But I understand it's the fashion in which it was done in, for the last bout, that left so many people in awe. Martinez is still dope tho, don't get that twisted

[boxingfan76]

anybody that knocks martinez right now is stone cold jealous.he rocked the boxing world with a much needed shakeup, watching pac fight washed up former champions is getting really boring and frankly naming him the best for doing that is bordering on obnoxious.martinez ko of williams should be knockout of the decade it was the most perfect punch ive seen.martinez fights top opposition unlike floyd and pacman.

[deanrw]

Just don't make the Hatton fight as an example as it was the ringpost that did it...

Hatton fought the only way he knew how. It does not mean he was not feeling them.

[Champ Is Here]

And what's Floyd done in the past 4 years?

Was that a serious comment? I hope not

[WESS]

I agree with some of what Jeff is saying...this is coming from a guy that predicted Martinez beat Williams, I just think Pavlik and Williams were tailor made to come straight forward. There's nothing wrong with those wins, there just not as big as some of you are making them out to be. But I understand it's the fashion in which it was done in, for the last bout, that left so many people in awe. Martinez is still dope tho, don't get that twisted

Man if Martinez's wins where tailor made for him than what was Pac's? Bought, signed, sealed and a guarantee win for him as soon as the deal was made well in advance by Arum? Sergio fought two different guys with different style... who has Pwill's style anyway... That dude (as Steward called him) is a "freak"..... a very good one IMO.

But let's for a second assume that sure the "bigger" and "stronger" Pavlik who was THE #1 MW at the time was made for Sergio's style and Williams "the most feared man on the planet" was the #2 MW at the time was also made for Sergio's style. Point is, he still beat THE TOP 2 guys with no issues other than a close fight vs Williams the first time. At least NO ISSUES making these fights VS real TOP threats in there weight class as they where rated 1 and 2.

Let's assume that Pac's SUPER big and tough, elite, top best of the best "selections" where the worst styled fighters that give him the toughest time and where the complete opposite of being made for his style.....

The "bigger" Clottey #5WW, coming off a loss and last "important" win was beating Judah????
Margarito who was not ranked, do I even need to mention his "accomplishments" since 2008?

Lets be real about this. Pac "selected" both these guys as they where Top Rank, IN HOUSE, "made to look good" fights. WEAK. Bottom line.

All this fighting "bigger" fighters talk and now everyone's back pedaling like little school girls chasing boys with cooties once a REAL threat that's NOT cherry picked by Team Pac wants his old TITLE BACK! What happened to the "super" Pac Manny tough guy talk from everyone. All I hear is weight this and weight that? Its VERY EASY, as long as you DON'T come in OVER 154, Pac's JMW title is ON the line for him to defend it. I don't get what the "big" deal is. The BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG super human Margarito who Pac "beat", beat Martinez MANY years ago? What's the problem?

Bottom line, Martinez is exposing Arum's, Roach and Pac's selecting, and all we heard from Arum was well we can BEAT Martinez but................ lol They will use Mayweather's name to distract fans from Martinez but in the meantime Arum's really getting (non golden) Mosley spun up to (lose) fight pac because he's prime, elite, fast, and strong again. not to mention he's coming off GREAT back to back wins..... wait what? lol

[PAKYO]

Hatton fought the only way he knew how. It does not mean he was not feeling them.

I agree but it was still the ringpost that did the job.

[muddogg]

Not takin it as a diss at all , I've played basketball not at an elite level of course just in hs and semster at college along with some amatuer boxing , what I've noticed is that while you can lose a step or two if he were as great as he says he will be able to overcome that.

The fact is you can't have your cake and eat it too , he wants to be on his best tip top shape but on the other hand wants things at his weight knowing a person is not gonna be at his best to perform , that's not fighting on even terms, he seems to want all da odds and advantages stacked in his favor.

Not arguing against u, but your forgetting one key thing, Martinez is calling Pac out, not vice versa. Pac knows he's to big, and therefore isn't considering the fight. Who do u want fight to fight next K2?? There's a point where a little man has to stop, think, and say hes to big.. Were at that point now. Pac has done legendary things, lets not let his legend end with a death in the ring. Lets be realistic, this type of fight should not even be sanctioned on size alone. Fighters need to be protected, don't forge there are no pension plans for these ring warriors! Thats my thoughts anyway.