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Comments Thread For: Jeff Mayweather: Martinez Not Better Than Pacquiao, Floyd
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Originally posted by PAKYO View PostWow, never thought you'd confirm everything what floyd really is.
Almost all boxers are gamblers, they fight the best and they take on bigger men than themselves like Pac.
Floyd has never done that. Floyd never gambled on his career since then. FLOYD TOOK ALL THE EASY WAY OUT and a lot got conned into it thinking he is this special. ( i know, i was one of those that got robbed)
FLOYD CHOOSED HIS OPPONENTS WELL who is not a threat to his zero.
FLOYD IS A FRAUD!
Green K coming...
"Almost all boxers are gamblers, they fight the best and they take on bigger men than themselves like Pac." Like Floyd who took on a bigger guy name Rick Ross!"
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yeah yeah sure, hahaha
This mayweather family do irritate me. Why don't they back up what they say. let's see them fight martinez. I'm sure martinez will take the easier fight of his life. Martinez Ko's gayweather in 3. nitramzaid@hotmail.com
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"He's "not no" devastating puncher" lmao...did he finish a high school??
Once again, I see how black "community" in the person of "Mayflower" try to justify a poor performance of their black fellow...he can do thiiiis he can do thaaat ...it was an accident .....STFU already ...Mayweather will never fight Pacman...he's scared of him. he ducks and avoids him by all means and those accusations against him play into his hands
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Martinez had two wonderful . . break out fights in 2010. However, its too early to be "overboard with this guy". Pavlik was not looking good and his form was far from great prior to fight Martinez . . and P Williams, as indicated by Jeff Mayweather wasn't really optimizing his advantages in height and reach, and his defense was suspect albeit he's a great volume puncher, so a good counter-puncher will eventually expose that weakness on Williams.
Certainly, we don't want to diminish those two strong opponents by Martinez, but we have to manage expectations. Extrapolating this two victories to say Martinez now has the number on Mayweather and Pacquiao . . is under-estimating these two greats who have been in countless wars and in the face of adversity have shown what made them the best in their generation. Again, too early to over-state Martinez . . i believe he wants to get his payday. He only got paid $1m fighting Williams vs Margarito who fought Pacquiao and may potentially earn $5m - $6m (based on the added compensation from Pay-per-view buys) . . that is what Martinez and his promoters are chasing, big returns! (i.e. he better be sure what he is wishing for . . he may just get it and it may bite on his face big time e.g. like a KO from either the money man or pacmonster).
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I feel like your really sleeping on Pacquiao. I am a hardcore Floyd Mayweather fan, but becoming less of a believer the more I see Pacquiao fight, and the more I see floyd Mayweather fight. Let's break it down
Manny Pacquiao has fought two fighters mayweather has obviously ducked.
1. Miguel Cotto
2. Antonio Margarito.
When I break down Mayweather and Pacquiao I see this -
Mayweather doesn't hit hard enough to make Pacquiao respect his power. The type of fighters Mayweather has had the most trouble with in his carer are Volume punchers (Jose Luis castillo) and speed fighters (Zab Juddah).
Pacquiao is a larger volume puncher then Jose Louis Castillo, the major differences in Jose's and Pacquiao's volume is this, Pacquiao hits harder then Jose Luis, and he is much more of an educated Volume puncher. He has much more technical skill then Jose Luis Castillo , and he throws more.
Pacquiao is also noticeably faster then Zab, but more importantly he has discipline. He's not going to just quit his game plan as soon as he gets hit a few times.
Mayweather is also the perfect opponent for Pacquiao because he is probably the greatest counter puncher of all time. Pacquiao has had the most trouble with Marquez, but that was a totally different Pacquiao. He's become stronger at higher weight classes and his right hand has visibly become greater now then it was when he fought Marquez.
The real fact of the matter is, Pacquiao has a higher chance of actually taking this fight because of the type of person he is. He will actually fight people that can possibly beat him. Floyd is the complete opposite. Floyd will at best take a fight when it is close (I stress the word close) to being an even fight.
Pacquaio would get Ko'd at 154 against martinez. This is true, I'm not detesting that, but Mayweather wont even take that fight. If he did, I believe he would lose via unanimous decision. I believe that he would ultimately take flight in the ring and finish the twelve rounds no matter how much the crowed boo's or how bad for boxing that would be.
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Most of what Jeff is saying is true.. but not all..
Well Jeff does know what he's talking about with PWILL in which he's all volume and not much technical.. an accident waiting to happen, but I disagree that Martinez is not a great puncher.. Martinez is a GREAT puncher.. but also agree not as good as PAC or FLOYD.
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