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  • #21
    pac is good with his feet and a fast south paw but thats it. he has no jab,no head movement,and no defense.he looks different because he's in there with all these slow ass come foward,old,shot,no jab,and war battered fighters.if he ever mans up and fight floyd it will be a total embarrassment. easy work.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by -Top Rank- View Post
      Yeah I see what you saying and I'm loving it. What would you say if Manny beats this dude? What about if he does so decisively? Just outta curiosity.


      The other thing to notice is this....with the exception of Hatton (who was having alot of success despite getting poleaxed) the guys Manny has fought...Cotto, Clottey, Margarito....none of them hold on the inside.......Clottey shells up and Margo and Cotto just throw....they are not the type of fighters who hold and maul on the inside. When you can't or won't do that PAccy can tee off on your ass......it's different if the opponent starts holding and grabbing Pac after taking shots rather than just opening up like a FOOL......

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      • #23
        Originally posted by flint View Post
        jeff is on point. williams was getting caught in the first martinez fight,the cintron fight too. pacquiao will not be able to do to martinez like he did to cheato but martinez will look like a ameteur to the superior skilled mayweather jr. wether you like floyd or not he is by far the most skilled in this era.
        You mean the same thing he did to cotto and dlh?

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        • #24
          Originally posted by check hook View Post
          It would really depend on how MArtinez looked physically coming to 54. If he looked ok i would have to give Manny his props.....no doubt.
          You know I think Martinez and his team are trying to bait these guys. Martinez can make 154 and probably pretty easy.

          It's kinda smart if you think about it because he can pretend the lowest he can go is 156, and then blow up to 170, keeping his speed, all while giving him at a huge advantage on fight night.

          Again I'm not buying those comments as well as Manny wants it under 150 because it's both trying to lure the other into making a dumb mistake.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by MindBat View Post
            Pretty much what I've been saying. Williams, like a lot of other fighters, is a gambler. Except he tossed his dice one too many times in the ring and crapped out.
            Wow, never thought you'd confirm everything what floyd really is.

            Almost all boxers are gamblers, they fight the best and they take on bigger men than themselves like Pac.

            Floyd has never done that. Floyd never gambled on his career since then. FLOYD TOOK ALL THE EASY WAY OUT and a lot got conned into it thinking he is this special. ( i know, i was one of those that got robbed)

            FLOYD CHOOSED HIS OPPONENTS WELL who is not a threat to his zero.

            FLOYD IS A FRAUD!
            Green K coming...

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            • #26
              Originally posted by -Top Rank- View Post
              You know I think Martinez and his team are trying to bait these guys. Martinez can make 154 and probably pretty easy.

              It's kinda smart if you think about it because he can pretend the lowest he can go is 156, and then blow up to 170, keeping his speed, all while giving him at a huge advantage on fight night.

              Again I'm not buying those comments as well as Manny wants it under 150 because it's both trying to lure the other into making a dumb mistake.


              It would be clever....but knowing how pissed he was about the CW in the Williams fight and the fact he was 175+ it would seem implausible he could do it easily.

              Watch the Williams weigh in....he is licking his lips alot (dry mouth??) and goes straight for the fluid after getting off the scales.

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              • #27
                Sound analysis on Martinez from Jeff Mayweather. I'm a huge Martinez fan, but just because he destroyed Williams doesn't mean he is in the class of Pacquiao or Mayweather.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by check hook View Post
                  The other thing to notice is this....with the exception of Hatton (who was having alot of success despite getting poleaxed) the guys Manny has fought...Cotto, Clottey, Margarito....none of them hold on the inside.......Clottey shells up and Margo and Cotto just throw....they are not the type of fighters who hold and maul on the inside. When you can't or won't do that PAccy can tee off on your ass......it's different if the opponent starts holding and grabbing Pac after taking shots rather than just opening up like a FOOL......
                  As a big fan of Manny, that is my biggest fear if he ever faces Floyd.

                  Not because you just posted this, but I've always thought selecting the right ref would be key in either of those fights.

                  If it's some Andre Ward ****, then Pac would lose pretty widely to both of those guys.

                  This is why I'm glad Pac has Roach in his corner because Freddy will make sure neither of those guys keep doing that throughout the fight by getting the right guy to prevent that from happening.

                  I say this because it will be one sided (clinching) and if it is...then it's not inside fighting...it's holding. Refs, atleast the good ones, always say if you don't engage or fall into that type of fight, as soon as they grab they will break it up...but if you try to fight on the inside....they won't break it up. Manny won't engage in that fight, and if Floyd or Martinez keep doing it...they will be penalized...albeit if it's the right ref.

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                  • #29
                    I'm not buyin this manny loses speed 1-2 pounds above 146, why is he the only one that brings that bull**** up , my speed ,my speed gimme a ****in break . then u want a guy 2 comin in ribs ****** in like a starving somalian and its no problem rite , he's losing speed ,power ,stamina.

                    How can pac have all his shid intact and want sergio to come down to an insane anemic 147, pac , hello ?? He's not one of these ****** you've been fighting , he's not comin off a loss ,no suspension for plastered up doctored gloves... sergio beats floyd and pac , that floyd pity pat ,forearm to the neck shid won't work , hope u do some pushups in prison to get ya weight up u gone need it

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                    • #30
                      nobody is in the class of mayweather. no even no jab,no defense pacquiao. floyd maybe a total jackass outside the ring but inside he is by far the best complete fighter in this era.he'll say that he's not thinking about boxing then go on vacation then come off and whip ass then go back anytime he wants.

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