So is Pac an 8 division world champion or not?

[Twako]

No Jack said "Do you think SRL would've ducked Martinez?"

It implies do you think SRL would of ducked Martinez?

why would you think he would asked that in that context, when SRL went up all the way to LHW and fought many ATGs better than Sergio?

[shade darkar]

has he won a major world title in 8 divisions? no. so your answer is he is not an 8 division world champion.

[Twako]

I personally think Pac can still make 135, and weight is not an issue with these two. JMM has him figured out and I really don't think a few pounds are gonna matter if they fight.

Pac doesn't like counterpunchers. That's a fact.

pac making 135 would probably be like pwill trying to make 147. diff is pwill will do it for the money, while pac doest need to. him and floyd are the moneymen.

[MOTHER DUCKER]

I barely noticed Poochies handspeed advantage vs Morales and Marquez.. i think he is most likely defeated by someone weighing less then 147 other then Martinez (who knocks him out) or Mayweather (who may win).

Marquez timed him perfectly and really hurt Pacquiao.. it's all right fighting big guys but if they haven't got the ability to cope with speed or bring some of there own they don't stand much chance.

[ModernTalking]

LOL ya haters are lucky he's not a 10 divisions champ.

[Bastian Loc]

pac making 135 would probably be like pwill trying to make 147. diff is pwill will do it for the money, while pac doest need to. him and floyd are the moneymen.

Pac has to eat 7000 calories to come in at 144???

If he trained like most boxers where they eat much less, he could easily lose 9 pounds.

Easily.

[jrosales13]

I personally think Pac can still make 135, and weight is not an issue with these two. JMM has him figured out and I really don't think a few pounds are gonna matter if they fight.

Pac doesn't like counterpunchers. That's a fact.

I hate that whole JMM argument because it really holds no water. If Pac didn't like counterpunchers he would not have fought JMM TWICE.

It was JMM who declined a rematch with Pac and instead took way less money to fight Chris John.

TR reached out to make a 3rd fight with JMM earlier this year. And, it was JMM who turned down a 3rd fight with Pac for the March date asking for 50/50 and basically out pricing themselves out and pac instead fought Clottey.

If it is "FACT" that Pac doesn't like to fight counter punchers they would not have been looking to fight JMM so many times. And, now really that ship has sailed bro...

But, if they did fight it should be at 135 I give you that. Anything higher Pac is just cherry picking and deserves no credit.

[Bastian Loc]

I barely noticed Poochies handspeed advantage vs Morales and Marquez.. i think he is most likely defeated by someone weighing less then 147 other then Martinez (who knocks him out) or Mayweather (who may win).

Marquez timed him perfectly and really hurt Pacquiao.. it's all right fighting big guys but if they haven't got the ability to cope with speed or bring some of there own they don't stand much chance.

Its obvious his fans only want to see him face come forward guys. He looks great against that style.

But he looks pretty amateurish against counterpunchers where his "new boxing skills" never seem to help him or even show up.

[jrosales13]

why would you think he would asked that in that context, when SRL went up all the way to LHW and fought many ATGs better than Sergio?

Maybe cuz SRL is an ATG and Manny is considered an ATG. And, because a different poster brought up SRL not Jack.

[Bastian Loc]

I hate that whole JMM argument because it really holds no water. If Pac didn't like counterpunchers he would not have fought JMM TWICE.

It was JMM who declined a rematch with Pac and instead took way less money to fight Chris John.

TR reached out to make a 3rd fight with JMM earlier this year. And, it was JMM who turned down a 3rd fight with Pac for the March date asking for 50/50 and basically out pricing themselves out and pac instead fought Clottey.

If it is "FACT" that Pac doesn't like to fight counter punchers they would not have been looking to fight JMM so many times. And, now really that ship has sailed bro...

But, if they did fight it should be at 135 I give you that. Anything higher Pac is just cherry picking and deserves no credit.

Pac had to fight him a second time because of the way the first fight went. JMM didn't duck him for John, he just wanted to be paid more and similarly after the Mayweather fight.

Just look at who he's fougth since JMM.

Its pretty obvious there are no master boxers anywhere on that list.