Why the Slick AA Boxing style argument against Pac is total BS.

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this post is 100% true...dont try to counter it TS...


..sad that people cant think for themselves..
do you believe everything commentators say?..
same commentator who said Baldomir would beat Floyd!
the thought of Pac being the the most complete boxer on the planet is absolutey absurd..but I will repeat it and believe it, beacause Manny Steward said so...

I already countered that and defeated it soundly, and Manny the commentator for HBO is obligated to "sell" a fight for a company that he works for so is this really a big suprise. He hyped the fight but never actually said Baldomir was gonna win. 2 rounds into the fight he was already saying that baldomir was no match for Floyd which everyone and their mother saw 2 months before the fight happened. When manny says something in the middle of a fight i tend to take that as his ligitimate opinion

[deejd]

I already countered that and defeated it soundly, and Manny the commentator for HBO is obligated to "sell" a fight for a company that he works for so is this really a big suprise. He hyped the fight but never actually said Baldomir was gonna win. 2 rounds into the fight he was already saying that baldomir was no match for Floyd which everyone and their mother saw 2 months before the fight happened. When manny says something in the middle of a fight i tend to take that as his ligitimate opinion

Says the avid Pacquiao supporter.

[deejd]

Of course you are not alone. There are many ignorant people who make those statements. They equate superior defense with running. Some if these same "writers" you emulate still believe Pernell Whitaker and Ray Leonard were runners. I consider the term "safety first" an incredibly ****** label. It usually comes from people who have never stepped foot in a boxing ring. Did Mayweather fight a safety first fight against the hard hitting Mosley?






But I'll play along with your game. What is your definition of safety first?

Superb post, indeed.

[American Dream]

I already countered that and defeated it soundly, and Manny the commentator for HBO is obligated to "sell" a fight for a company that he works for so is this really a big suprise. He hyped the fight but never actually said Baldomir was gonna win. 2 rounds into the fight he was already saying that baldomir was no match for Floyd which everyone and their mother saw 2 months before the fight happened. When manny says something in the middle of a fight i tend to take that as his ligitimate opinion

I see you tried to counter it, but I didnt see the defeat..your thread essentially ended with that posters response!

..and wrong..Steward said Floyd was ducking Baldo, he was the man to beat Floyd..and that Floyd was scared to face him because he was a threat to his record (this was before the fight was signed..and before the Judah fight took place)..so the "selling" you use as your excuse ends there..as there was no fight to sell when he made that first statement..only half way through the fight did he realize he was dead wrong on his call..much like he is with Pac being a complete boxer..how comical you pac STANS can be...

Im out..this thread was owned long ago...

[cixthree]

Manny is not a slow footed, uncoordinated, brawler with no hand speed and just comes at you in a straight line over and over again. Manny has more hand speed and athletic gifts then any AA fighter you can mention except for Floyd of course and even Floyd is probably only just as fast and just as athletically gifted as Pac so they are on even terms. So before you go buying into this whole Slick AA style ask yourself this. How is it supposed to work when the so called "brawler" they would be facing posseses greater hand speed, reflexes and footwork making it impossiable to avoid the punches? Isn't that the point of the slick AA style? Avoid avoid avoid! So what happens when you can't ***ing avoid whats coming at you because they are twice as fast as you? Sorry guys but there is not one Black fighter outside of Mayweather jr that is not at a disadvantage handspeed and footwork wise if they step into the ring with Pac! The slick style just doesn't work if you are the slower fighter.

Manny is not a slow footed, uncoordinated, brawler with no hand speed and just comes at you in a straight line over and over again.

But most if not all the fighters he's faced was......... Get off the black race talk dude... Bernard spoke without thinking.. Slick comes in all races, Manny has slickness to him also... Stop using Bernards comment as an excuse to unleash your hate

[Proff Griff]

Even if you wern't you still think that makes your opinions anymore meaningful? Even I acknowledge my opinion means little to nothing but watch out MR. Self important is here making sure he lets everyone know how trite their opinions are despite not making one valid argument himself.

Oh really? How about your "opinion" that Mayweather never goes for the KO even though the majority of his opponents have not seen the final bell? Now which is more valid? Your opinion or the facts? Show me the validity you crave with that ridiculous statement.



The numbers don't lie. And THAT is where your opinion is worthless on the topic.

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Says the avid Pacquiao supporter.

And you're completely wrong I have no intrest in Pac whatsoever, never been a fan of his. Just a fan of logic and thinking something that is obviously non existent in your world.

[DondiNeverLeft]

Manny is not a slow footed, uncoordinated, brawler with no hand speed and just comes at you in a straight line over and over again. Manny has more hand speed and athletic gifts then any AA fighter you can mention except for Floyd of course and even Floyd is probably only just as fast and just as athletically gifted as Pac so they are on even terms. So before you go buying into this whole Slick AA style ask yourself this. How is it supposed to work when the so called "brawler" they would be facing posseses greater hand speed, reflexes and footwork making it impossiable to avoid the punches? Isn't that the point of the slick AA style? Avoid avoid avoid! So what happens when you can't ***ing avoid whats coming at you because they are twice as fast as you? Sorry guys but there is not one Black fighter outside of Mayweather jr that is not at a disadvantage handspeed and footwork wise if they step into the ring with Pac! The slick style just doesn't work if you are the slower fighter.

Ridiculous

[megadeth]

And when Manny Steward calls Pac the finest and most complete boxer on the planet I tend to take his word over yours since he's actually qualified to make that claim.

If you are taking his Manny's opinion on that and you haven't previously read that took a rocketship off the planet, then I all I can do is shake my head about that one.

[pistol whip]

Oh really? How about your "opinion" that Mayweather never goes for the KO even though the majority of his opponents have not seen the final bell? Now which is more valid? Your opinion or the facts? Show me the validity you crave with that ridiculous statement.



The numbers don't lie. And THAT is where your opinion is worthless on the topic.

You're right.....if you wanna tell half truths. Lets not forget that those "TKO's" came against pedestrian compatition! Henry Brussles oh my lord or how can we forget the human punching bag Arturro Gatti! Lets also not forget that hes had Two ***ing "TKO's in the last 5 years. Oh how can we forget the immortal Shamba Mitchell or Emmanual "i've lost more fights than the Detroit Lions" Augustus. Seriously stop acting like a 60 percent KO record makes him a knockout artist. He knocked out two B fighters and a b- fighter and the majority of his KO's came in the Super featherweight division. oh yeah he's a killer.