Why the Slick AA Boxing style argument against Pac is total BS.

[Proff Griff]

What? If there was a definiton in the dictionary of safety first boxer there would be a picture of floyd right next to it. Dont act like im somehow alone in this because every major boxing writer i have ever seen write an article on mayweather has never used the word "risk taker" to describe him.

Berto has taken risks mainly in the Collazo fight but he was forced into it becasue collazo who himslef is not this slow plodding brawler took the fight to berto and forced the action. becasue of that berto had no choice and if Collazo did that with his above average speed what do you think a speed demon like pac is gonna do to him? The Urango fight is a prime example of Bertos safty first style but he did redeem himself against Quintana a Bit but that was against a very ordinary fighter.

Mosely i never have and never will consider a Slick fighter. He was a knock out machine at LW and was always mixing it up when he went up in weight. I don't know where you got the idea that i thought Shane was a safety first fighter? I always admired his toughness and willingness to push the fight.

You're being ridiculous. Did you even watch the fight? The issue was "taking chances" as you phrased it; now you are grasping at straws.








Is this not "taking chances" sir?

[bojangles1987]

It's not slick that gives Manny problems to begin with, it's how good a counter puncher a fighter is, because Manny throws so much a great counter puncher will have a LOT of opportunities. A guy that is slick and a decent counter puncher isn't a problem, it's the guys who are great counter punchers like Marquez was and Morales was able to do that have a history of success. And even then it's not like Pac was whitewashed.

Floyd's "slickness" wouldn't trouble Pac. His counter punching would.

[champ007]

Pernell Whitaker would be a good example of a slick boxer. I think people feel left out and offended when the "slick reference to AA boxers" was made. If we were talking basketball MJ and Magic would be examples of slick players. It is what it is.

[johnm is...]

No I brought up DLH/Mayweather to prove that DLH isn't this plodding fighter ala Margarito. whats the *** are you talking about?

You were using the DLH that fought MAYWEATHER, to suggest the DLH that fought PACQUIAO wasn't a plodding fighter? Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

Those were 2 completely different versions of Oscar.

I know your game. I've tried to reply to a lot of your posts. You just twist everything around to make it mean whatever you want, then you insult people who disagree.

[pistol whip]

Of course you are not alone. There are many ignorant people who make those statements. They equate superior defense with running. Some if these same "writers" you emulate still believe Pernell Whitaker and Ray Leonard were runners. I consider the term "safety first" an incredibly ****** label. It usually comes from people who have never stepped foot in a boxing ring. Did Mayweather fight a safety first fight against the hard hitting Mosley?






But I'll play along with your game. What is your definition of safety first?

Fighters who are reluctent to finish their opponents thats a sefety first fighter. Pernell finished lots of ***ing people and against worldclass opposition too. Same for Sugar Ray when you finish a murderous puncher like Tommy Hearns you don't get labled a runner in my book. Even Wlad Klitchko who gets labeled a safety first fighter finishes his opponents so he is in no way a safety first fighter either.

But floyd doesn't finish fighters that are screaming to be knocked the *** out! It's not even that he doesn't finish them that bothers me. Its that he doesn't even try to accomplish it! Sorry but I think his label is very very ***ing fair and his reluctance to fight pac a fighter who will hit him back is not helping things either.

[pistol whip]

You were using the DLH that fought MAYWEATHER, to suggest the DLH that fought PACQUIAO wasn't a plodding fighter? Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

Those were 2 completely different versions of Oscar.

I know your game. I've tried to reply to a lot of your posts. You just twist everything around to make it mean whatever you want, then you insult people who disagree.

now you are gonna tell me what I was thinking thanks I appriciate it but you're wrong.

[pistol whip]

You're being ridiculous. Did you even watch the fight? The issue was "taking chances" as you phrased it; now you are grasping at straws.








Is this not "taking chances" sir?

Im at work and can't see videos what did you post?

[johnm is...]

now you are gonna tell me what I was thinking thanks I appriciate it but you're wrong.

For the love of God. It's not what you were THINKING. It's exactly what you POSTED.

[johnm is...]

Lets also be honest about De la Hoya and Cotto, neither are straight ahead fighters. they are very well rounded and pose a threat to anyone in their divisions. I believe it was an older slower De La Hoya who the slickest of all boxers could only eek out a 1 round win against was it not?

Right here you are, trying to say that DLH wasn't a plodding fighter, because of the way he fought MAYWEATHER.

Tell me again how I'm just "telling you what you're thinking".

[Amazinger]

Right here you are, trying to say that DLH wasn't a plodding fighter, because of the way he fought MAYWEATHER.

Tell me again how I'm just "telling you what you're thinking".

lol john just say "funny how"...do I amuse you?.