Comments Thread For: Schaefer Feels Arum is Cherry Picking Pacquiao's Fights

[sigrab jr]

If Pac can beat Cotto(age 29), Clottey(age 32), and Margarito(age 32) with the greatest of ease... then what 'prime' fighters is he going to step up to in the neighborhood of WW? 35 year old Sergio Martinez? Of course if Pac clowns him, suddenly he would've been too old and past his prime.

So tell me, since 33 year old Floyd (will be 34 in the Spring) is on vacation, who should Pac step up to at WW?

You are a really ****** son of bee to come up with age as an excuse.

Lol.


Did you know Oscar De La Hoya beat a 32 year old Julio Cesar Chavez? And people called JCC past prime and old? That was because of the wars he has been through before. Plus Clottey is not that good and he was the underdog going in to the fight.

A 35 year old Hopkins beat a 20 something year old Trinidad. A 44 year old Hopkins beat a 20 something year old Pavlik. 40 year old Hopkins beat a #1 LHW Tarver, 41 year old Hopkins beat an early 30s Winky Wright.

Late 30s Nate Campbell upset a young undefeated Juan Diaz.

Cotto 28? lesser fighters like Corley and Torres rocked Cotto before.

I don't wanna go on with this lesson you're obviously just a ****** ******* who worships your god Manny Pacquiao.

[medi8r]

He should fight Martinez or a 140 fighter

The reason Pac is looking so great is his speed.. the Margaritos/Clotteys/Cottos just can't handle it and don't have enough speed of there own to trouble him. A Khan/Bradley could cause him trouble.. i watched Marquez and Morales vs Pac the other day.. honest to god i didn't see much difference in speed.. pac was at a slight advantage but nothing major..

The guy to beat Pac is either Floyd/Martinez or a guy at 140

I agree with you on the speed. Not to mention these fighters had already had something taken out of them prior to fighting Pac. But in mentioning Pac's fights with Marquez and Morales, to me the biggest difference in those fights were footwork. Roach will stay away from any fighter that is capable of the footwork you need to neutralize a southpaw like Pac. A good observer will know immediately that Pac has mediocre balance and can be kept off balance long enough to get something off. Morales couldn't do it during the 2nd and 3rd fights because he was a shell of himself by that point. Raheem proved that. But JMM did in both fights. The only difference in both JMM and Pac fights to me was strength. Pac was just stronger. Impressive what JMM was able to do to a bigger man in Pac during the rematch.

[NonSense]

I do believe that, IT'S MAYWEATHER WHO CHERRY-PICKED HIS OPPONENTS and not pac....

[megadeth]

I do believe that, IT'S MAYWEATHER WHO CHERRY-PICKED HIS OPPONENTS and not pac....

What you believe and reality are 2 different things. They have both done what is called "cherry picking". Picking and choosing which fighters to fight. The difference is, almost all of Pac's "creative matchmaking" has been against guys w/much of the same style(slow, stationary, or comforward), who have looked either bad in the last fight or are coming off a lose. Not to mention adding on catchweights, drained or a weight they haven't fought in years. Please tell me where I am wrong.

[WESS]

We all know Pac fights anyone....(who Bob says is OK)

We have known for along time that Bob is to blame. He's the same reason Mayweather vs Cotto/Margarito didnt happen but it's all Mayweather's fault right and had nothing to do with Arum?

Just like the Mayweather and Mosley fight didnt happen with Pac, but it's Mayweather and Mosley's fault right and had nothing to do with Pac and Arum???

Does anyone read in between the lines? You would notice Bob Arum, FORMER promoter of Floyd and current promoter of Pac. We KNOW for a fact he doesnt like to "deal" (share money) with Golden Boy or Floyd.

Good ol' Bob, f**kin' up boxing. Pac should drop his @$$ off on the next block like Mayweather did. I bet the fight gets made.....

[Dan...]

But, we looking at it in hindsight if that is the case no?

Because going into it Oscar was a huge favorite against Pac. It was suppose a mismatch in Oscar favor going into it. Hindsight it was not the case.

And, in hindsight Martinez starched P-Will in 2 rounds. So how competitive was that? While Pac-Cotto was competitive for the first 4 or 5 rounds.

But, going into Martinez-Williams was suppose to be FOTY and very evenly and it didn't disappoint IMO.

The point is how are we gasping this? The perception going into the fight or looking back in hindsight?

It has got to be the perception going in. You can't use hindsight to judge fights.

[Phil Ivey]

If Pac can beat Cotto(age 29), Clottey(age 32), and Margarito(age 32) with the greatest of ease... then what 'prime' fighters is he going to step up to in the neighborhood of WW? 35 year old Sergio Martinez? Of course if Pac clowns him, suddenly he would've been too old and past his prime.

So tell me, since 33 year old Floyd (will be 34 in the Spring) is on vacation, who should Pac step up to at WW?

Don't embarrass yourself any further by mentioning Margarito or Clottey, please. Pac won't clown Martinez, keep dreaming - he would make Martinez go below 150 for that.

[Eric Holder]

isn't that what the promoter's supposed to do? not saying it's right or wrong

[FloydTBE]

arum calls the shots

[kingfaze19]

What you believe and reality are 2 different things. They have both done what is called "cherry picking". Picking and choosing which fighters to fight. The difference is, almost all of Pac's "creative matchmaking" has been against guys w/much of the same style(slow, stationary, or comforward), who have looked either bad in the last fight or are coming off a lose. Not to mention adding on catchweights, drained or a weight they haven't fought in years. Please tell me where I am wrong.

GTFOH wit that BS... how many ppl said any of those things BEFORE the fight , those excuses come up only AFTER Pacquiao wins, thats nothing new in boxing, before Floyd fought Shane, alot of fcking ppl felt shane would win even by KO, after the fight "shane is too old"

before the De La Hoya fight "why is oscar picking on that midget"
after the fight " oscar was weight drained"

there is always an excuse for something, now ppl are saying Pac is cherry picking BIG guys like Cotto, Clottey and Margarito ? come on

now they want him to move up to 155 and fight Martinez. . Pac is an ATG, weak excuses wont hurt his status