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  • #71
    Originally posted by | THE KING | View Post
    Better fighter.. yes. But move him up to 147 to fight him.. Contrary to BoxingScene belief.. weight does play a factor in fights.
    Indeed it does. I have never questioned that.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Proff Griff
      Weight drained Margarito? Mosley knocked Mayorga clean out but it was due to luck? As if that was Mosley's first and only KO? Mosley was about as lucky as Martinez was against Williams last saturday. No KO in boxcing is "lucky" when it happens to be the clear objective. Just to give you a bit of factual information; Mosley was ahead on the scorecards. So don't pretend like this was a come from behind KO. Mayorga was also fight an opponent who normally fights as a middleweight which is what I can assume made him difficult to hurt.



      Aside from that , the Mosley-Pac man fight could have happened after Mosley looked very good against Margarito. So refrain from changing the chronology of events for your benefit.
      Eh.. after reading the first sentence (which is confirmed true by sources within his camp).. then glancing over the second (Mosley looked terrible boxing a faded ass Mayorga... We'll have to agree to disagree. But, yea Manny fought Cotto for several reasons (which has been rehashed over and over again).. 1) Money/bigger draw and fanbase; 2) Cotto beat Mosley; 3)Top Rank in-house fight; 4) Mosley was 38 years old, dude was shaking/jittery after the 2-3rd round ..

      Changing ***** for my benefit? We just have a difference of opinion in this.
      Last edited by | THE KING |; 11-23-2010, 05:51 PM.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by | THE KING | View Post
        Eh.. after reading the first sentence (which is confirmed true by sources within his camp).. then glancing over the second (Mosley looked terrible boxing a faded ass Mayorga... We'll have to agree to disagree. But, yea Manny fought Cotto for several reasons (which has been rehashed over and over again).. 1) Money/bigger draw and fanbase; 2) Cotto beat Mosley; 3)Top Rank in-house fight; 4) Mosley was 38 years old, dude was shaking/jittery after the 2-3rd round ..

        Changing ***** for my benefit? We just have a difference of opinion in this.
        Fair enough

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        • #74
          Richard Schaefer is just as worst as Bob Arum.

          You want 50-50 split if Pacquiao wants to fight Juan Manuel Marquez and JMM gets to pick the rules?

          LMAO GBP is a joke

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          • #75
            I just really dont see who hes supposed to fight at 140-147 who he isnt the heavy favorite over. That why him and Floyd have to fight. Bradley is a fun fighter to watch and has huge balls, but either Pac or Floyd dismantle him. Same with anyone else at 140.Sergio is a MW, PWill is coming off a 2nd rd KO, Cotto,Clottey and Mosley have all been beaten up rather easily. Andre Berto is about it for either one of them.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by lopez36 View Post
              dude you must be a huge pac fan,if you really believe pac fights prime fighters,fine.lol
              Well that wasn't the debate but OK...

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              • #77
                Originally posted by | THE KING | View Post
                If you read my post I am in no way claiming Cotto/Clottey to being ATGs. What I am getting at is climbing up divisions, no matter how tough/easy the opposition may seem, is not an easy feat. Just because Manny makes it look easy, does not make it fact. Pacquiao fought Cotto for several reasons, I don't see how that's a problem. Pacquiao couldn't fight Mosley*38 year old.. struggled boxing Mayorga..before lucky KO.. beat a weight-drained Marg..Mosley*(cause of Berto).. Not until after Pacquiao signed to fight Clottey did Mosley become available.

                Again..Let us put Khan/JMM/Devon/Tim/Ortiz.. against the likes of Cotto/Clottey/Marg..

                Better yet.. let's pull Katsidis up to fight ODLH at WW.. yank him back down to JWW to fight hatton.. pull him back up to WW and fight Cotto.. then Clottey.. and finish that line up by fighting Marg at a CW at JMW..

                The last 3 or so years he went through 4 divisions..
                I took the liberty to bold the specific points that are ridiculous.

                Mosley was available since he beat Margs before Pacquiao beat Hatton.
                Mayweather was available after Pacquiao beat Cotto in a non-welterweight contest.
                Last edited by deejd; 11-23-2010, 06:21 PM.

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                • #78
                  Schaefer needs to stfu. Coming from the Golden Boy camp where it's CEO (DLH) "cherry picked" Manny and got his ass handed to him!

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by | THE KING | View Post
                    Eh.. after reading the first sentence (which is confirmed true by sources within his camp).. then glancing over the second (Mosley looked terrible boxing a faded ass Mayorga... We'll have to agree to disagree. But, yea Manny fought Cotto for several reasons (which has been rehashed over and over again).. 1) Money/bigger draw and fanbase; 2) Cotto beat Mosley; 3)Top Rank in-house fight; 4) Mosley was 38 years old, dude was shaking/jittery after the 2-3rd round ..

                    Changing ***** for my benefit? We just have a difference of opinion in this.
                    Manny's own trainer said exactly why they didn't want to fight him. "you're too good".

                    1)You say more money, bigger fan base? Then why after May/Mosley drew 1.4mil to Pac/Cottos 1.25 weren't the Pac fans anointing FMJ the clear PPV cash cow? Pac/Cotto had 2 big draws vs. FMJ/Mosley's 1 big draw and they still got beat by 150k.

                    2. Cotto just barely beat Mosley and got CLOBBERED by Margarito and then didn't look ANY GOOD until 154. After Mosley Ko'd Margarito(as u say lucky ko) he looked like a monster VS Margarito.

                    3. I will give you this. This has a lot to do with it, but Manny should be man enough to say something about it.

                    4.So Pac won't fight Mosley @ 38 after he has KO'd Margarito, but he will fight him @ 39 after he almost gets shutout by FMJ and looks bad against Mora? Why not? Sounds exactly how they have picked his recent bouts, so it's nothing new.

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                    • #80
                      didnt Scheffer had somethin to do with Mayweather-Marquez at 147lbs ? maybe he should STFU

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