Sergio "Maravilla" Martinez Is P4P The Best Fighter Right Now

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  • Ray*
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    #121
    He should be in number 2 at least..

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    • hugh grant
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      #122
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      you get some boxing knowledge, then come talk to me.
      You wont argue if people have Sergio no1 above pac? If you disagree with it why not argue it? Did Pac do something to upset you?

      Use your so called 20,000 posts knowledge to make a case for Pac being better then Sergio. Its not hard. Easiest gig in the world.

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      • jrosales13
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        #123
        Originally posted by hugh grant
        You wont argue if people have Sergio no1 above pac? If you disagree with it why not argue it? Did Pac do something to upset you?

        Use your so called 20,000 posts knowledge to make a case for Pac being better then Sergio. Its not hard. Easiest gig in the world.
        Get some boxing knowledge and then talk to me....

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        • hugh grant
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          #124
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          Get some boxing knowledge and then talk to me....
          Yeah yeah. You called me out and now i will be on your case and single you out for attention.

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          • MOTHER DUCKER
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            #125
            Originally posted by Alan Beast
            There wasn't a lineal champ at that time. I just added his name to the list because you stated he has faced nothing but bums. If so please list who were better than those guys at those classes.
            I don't know if i said that but if i did i was wrong..

            I am not THAT crazy over the guys recent record though.. i thought Cotto was a good win but he wasn't exactly coming of a great victory.

            It depends who you score the lists i will say Martinez last 3-4 fights have been against much better competition then Pacs and if he doesn't rectify that in his next fight.. Martinez will overtake him on many lists..

            We get that Pac can take on big guys.. now lets see if he can fight bigger guys who bring something to the table.. i.e some decent handspeed or boxing skills. If he isn't going to do that he should go down to 140 and we will see him in harder fights imo..

            He should have fought:

            Mosley over Cotto or Clottey period
            Bradley/berto over Margarito

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            • joseph5620
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              #126
              Originally posted by Alan Beast
              Why don't you answer the question and post who was considered better at those class during that time. You say Manny has fought bums...well prove it.

              Also dude beat the #1 guy at JWW....and then beat two top WW in Cotto and Clottey. Who else outside of Floyd was better than those guys? Dude tried to face Floyd. How can you say he hasn't fought anyone when you know damn well you would struggle to post fighters better than the guys he just faced?
              What I said was Martinez last two opponents were better than Pacquiao's last two. I never called any fighter a "bum". Find where I said that? Try to stay on topic and there's no need to lie.

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              • silnt_assn_009
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                #127
                Originally posted by Mannie Phresh
                For real. Knock Pacquiao down to #2 and Mayweather down to #3. It will end their whole pissing match and force them to fight or shut up. Sergio "Maravilla" Martinez Pound 4 Pound the greatest fighter in the world.
                Pound for Pound is a title made up to consider the domination of a fighter no matter what weight he is. Sergio is very good, and should be considered in the top 5, but not no. 1. I think he only fought at 3 weight divisions and won the light middle weight belt in 2008 and the middle weight belt in 2010.

                Manny fought Marquez at 130 in March 2008, Diaz at 135 in June 2008, De la Hoya at 147 in December 2008, Hatton at 140 in May 2009, Cotto at 145 in November 2009, Clottey at 147 in March 2010, and Margarito at 150 in November 2010. In 2 and a half year span, Manny fough at Super Featherweight, Light Weight, Junior Welterweight, Welterweight (3 times), and Light Middleweight.

                What Manny accomplished is a better definition of pound for pound, not taking anything away from Martinez. Knocking out Williams who was ranked #3 pound for pound does not automatically make you number 1.

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                • Canelo Phresh
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by silnt_assn_009
                  Pound for Pound is a title made up to consider the domination of a fighter no matter what weight he is. Sergio is very good, and should be considered in the top 5, but not no. 1. I think he only fought at 3 weight divisions and won the light middle weight belt in 2008 and the middle weight belt in 2010.

                  Manny fought Marquez at 130 in March 2008, Diaz at 135 in June 2008, De la Hoya at 147 in December 2008, Hatton at 140 in May 2009, Cotto at 145 in November 2009, Clottey at 147 in March 2010, and Margarito at 150 in November 2010. In 2 and a half year span, Manny fough at Super Featherweight, Light Weight, Junior Welterweight, Welterweight (3 times), and Light Middleweight.

                  What Manny accomplished is a better definition of pound for pound, not taking anything away from Martinez. Knocking out Williams who was ranked #3 pound for pound does not automatically make you number 1.
                  manny made a bid for jr middle weight dominance right. so fight fair against maravilla. lets see how pac does against a guy that fights for real.

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                  • Proff Griff
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    LOL @ Manny's comfortable weight. Manny was comfortable giving up 17lbs unless it's a guy like Martinez. Then that person becomes "too big." More like, "too good." Which he is.

                    This is a very accurate assessment. Mosley was too big but Margarito was not. Delahoya could weigh 147 but Mosley could not. The games only work on those who refuse to see the light.

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