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Originally posted by Iceta Lives View PostTo be fair, Martinez did say Pacquiao could beat Floyd. He shouldn't totally rule out a fight with Pacquiao because then that will give Pac an excuse to go after a tailor made title holder like Sturm for a ninth title and his fans will claim he's the GOAT.
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Originally posted by periks19 View Postyeah because he didn't dominated kelly pavlik right yeah kelly pavlik was 4 feet tall and smaller than martinez. Because he didn't dominate williams a 6'2 guy right because he had to loose weight instead of making theyre opponets loose weights ala pacquiao right. In one night get this in one ****ing night martinez just faced better competition than pac has faced in his last fights except marquez. and we all know how pacs face came out after that fight.
Martinez just put a fighter to sleep with one ****ing punch get this one ****ing punch and gave him his first stopage of his career thats more impressive than stopping somebody that has been stoped before like pac did against cotto and hatton. He dominated pavlik who was more threath than margarito was to pac. pavlik was the favorite manny people were talking about a mismatch and guess what martinez did manny vs margarito manny was the favorite to win.
Current p4p rankings should be like this
#1 Martinez win over williams more impressive than manny last fights and that pbf win over mosley
#2 mayweather win vs mosley more impressive than any of pacs
#3 pacquiao to tell you the truth i just have him there because he is popular probably why mostly everyone has him there. To be determined p4p best it should be determined by your level of opposition not popularity **** in that case if pbf fought nothing but ghattis at catchweights then he should be the best ever lmaol that is what pac is doing except with him they play the little man card whch already got ****ing annoying.
Well said. My current P4P would read:
1) PBF (but he has to accept Martinez challenge or Martinez becomes #1)
2) Martinez
3) The Klitchsko brothers
4) Manny (6 fighters coming off of big losses is not that impressive)
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Originally posted by p4p-champ View PostPacquiao has the 154lb belt. Martinez is a legitimate 154lbs fighter, bring it. Lets get real, this is really about size, it about the skill. Pacquiao would be in over his head with a boxing talent like Martinez.
I say this:
Try to make Floyd vs Pacquiao next fall. Fight falls through....take on Mosley then push for Martinez in the fall. That would give Manny time to get an easy win...because I can't see him taking on another big guy just yet. People will laugh...but I have a feeling this is a fight that will happen (Pacquiao vs Martinez) but maybe sometime in 2012.
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Originally posted by Emiliano Zapata View PostMartinez has many flaws said Roach. His mouth is flawed. Everyone wants a Pacquiao jackpot. Yes it will be a mismatch, the other way around. Line him as another Pacquiao Latin American victim.
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Martinez should be able to beat both these guys. At least Pac would fight him though, you know Fraud would never get in the ring with him.
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Originally posted by Alan Beast View PostIt can happen, but it may take time. Just two years ago Manny was fight Marquez at 130 and no one in the history of the sport just walks through weight classes like you want Manny to do.
He is not better than Manny because what manny is doing is dominated guy a lot bigger than Him. Martinez is a career 154lb who just went up and beat to MW. Props to him for that but that is not even comparable to a flyweight moving up and dominating WW's.
You rants are really pathetic because instead of enjoying a great win for Martinez and the Middleweight division....you still have Manny's name on your mind.
like i said before in one ****ing night martinez just beat way better opposition than pac has faced since marquez and he didn't it in beautiful fashion
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Originally posted by Alan Beast View PostBarrera and Morales are more skilled than Martinez and that's a fact. You would never know that because you are knew to the sport of boxing. Don't let their brawling tactics fool you....because if you ever paid attention to Morales.....you would know what I'm talking about.
Morales is one of my all-time faves but let be real, Mexican fighters are primarily brawlers, very comparable to what Pacquiao is. They rely heavily on their physical abilities more than their technical. Pacman, is gifted with Speed and power but his actual boxing technique I wouldn't call at an elite level.
Marquez was probably the most skilled fighter Pacquiao has ever faced. However, he doesn't fight your typical all out blood and guts style which is why he gave Pacman all he could handle.
This is no shot at Mexican fighters as they have many all-time greats and they probably have the biggest hearts in the sport. I just believe that a true master of boxing relies on technique as much as the physical talents they posses. Martinez has that overall package and Manny has never fought anyone like it.
Personally, I'd give Martinez a far greater chance of beating Mayweather than I would Pacman. Martinez is the real deal.Last edited by p4p-champ; 11-21-2010, 01:05 PM.
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Originally posted by Alan Beast View Postyeah my bad for that last comment directed at you. I got you mixed up with those other flaming dudes...so my bad on that.
I say this:
Try to make Floyd vs Pacquiao next fall. Fight falls through....take on Mosley then push for Martinez in the fall. That would give Manny time to get an easy win...because I can't see him taking on another big guy just yet. People will laugh...but I have a feeling this is a fight that will happen (Pacquiao vs Martinez) but maybe sometime in 2012.
After really analyzing Pac/Margarito I pick Mosley over Pac. Pac is too easy to hit and Mosley is still way faster and hits way harder than Margarito. When Mosley taps Pac's body he will do more than wince.Last edited by Sugar Q; 11-21-2010, 12:55 PM.
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