Martinez unorthodox K.O. Video of Williams

[infamous larryx]

this is like me saying floyd invented the check hook

[Spoon23]

dude its an overhand punch..when you throw it you duck to the opposite side..hense when you land it youre on the opposite side of the other fighter..smh..learn the sport man and stop making yourself look ignorant..manny didnt invent anything..hes just a fighter

Ah really, it's that easy huh. Show me a video. Dud it's an overhand shot slipping to the side while hyper extending your shot. Your whole body is sliding to the side while your opponent is stationary. If it's that easy. Find me a video.

If it's that easy move find me a video. Just make sure you don't give me a video of a guy coming forward and the the one who is throwing an overhand shot seems to be going to the side coz he moved into him.

The guy must be going forward with an overhand shot stepping to the side in one sweeping motion while the opponent is not moving forward or backwards but stationary.

If it's amatuerish then you should see a lot of videos of it easily. Goodluck. I'm waiting. Come on. Show me.

it ain't an easy move, if you look at martinez he ain't even looking. It is a no look step to the side overhand punch.

Show me a vid. Dispute it. Come on take a shot =)
Must be a lot of them out there. =P

[Rick Grimes]

[Spoon23]

this is like me saying floyd invented the check hook

Dud, all you have to do is provide a vid. That simple. If you can't provide then I must be saying something true ain't I.

[Spoon23]

Almost but not quite, PAc's move to the side of the boxer after he hits his opponents. He just threw an overhand cross. He ain't at the side. Pac is moving to the side while throwing that overhand in one sweeping motion. His whole body moves forward to the side. Your example just remained in the same place. He just made a overhand cross.

[Ryn0]

Hopkins was doing this with the right hand long before Pacquiao....

And many fighters in history have done the same thing, it's not new.

[Spoon23]

Hopkins was doing this with the right hand long before Pacquiao....

And many fighters in history have done the same thing, it's not new.

Pacquiao's punch is an overhand left in one sweeping motion, and by the time he lands that left he is already in the left side of the opponent thats the difference. It is all done in one sweeping motion.

Marciano looked like he was doing it but it is actually the opponent going towards him while he was about to throw the overhand right that made it look like he was beside his opponents right.

Pac throws a left (take note) coming forward while the opponent is stationary and while doing this move ends to his opponents left side in one sweeping motion that's the difference. And you say I don't have a keen eye

It's a shot moving forward using an overhand left while going to the left of the opponent.

Again I say, marciano looked like he was doing it but the reason it looked like he was at the right side of his opponent is because when he threw the overhand right his opponent 'went towards him', making his body seem at the side of his opponent.

The pac punch is a move pac does while coming forward and moving to the left of the opponent in 'one sweeping movement'
while his opponent is stationary 'not coming forward'
Am I keen enough

Overhand shots have been done ever since the dawn of time. That is why if you look at pacquio's recent fights. Or his recent fight with Margarito. It is not an ordinary overhand left shot. He would throw an overhand left while ducking immediately to the side. Same as what he did with Delahoya.

It ain't just an overhand left dude. It's an overhand slip to the side move.

If you have video of Hopkins doing show me. Just post it here and dispute my thread. It should be a lot as you said hopkins does this a lot.

Show me a Hopkins video. Dud it's an overhand shot slipping to the side while hyper extending the over hand shot. Your whole body is slidding to the side while your opponent is stationary.

The opponent must be at the side of the puncher after he throws that overhand. It is a graceful sweeping move using an overhand while ducking to the side.

If you have a hopkins clip. Show me. I doubt he did. I've been a Hopkin fans ever since

[Toe Injury]

theoretically you're supposed to slip/move after EVERY punch/combo

that's not innovating it's textbook

and again in over 10 years of watching MMA ive never heard anyone say "pacquaio punch"

[-Johannes-]

As I saw the KO I thought about the punch Pacquiao landed on JMM and Hatton but how's that a punch borrowed from Pac? This only proves that some people arrived to boxing when Pacquiao became famous and I hope they leave as soon as Pacquiao retires.

[Toe Injury]

ok i guess this explains it:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport/garethadavies/100004391/ufc-107-mir-copied-%E2%80%98the-pacquiao-punch%E2%80%99-to-ko-kongo/

Frank Mir said that the punch he used was inspired by Pacquaio

way different than saying pacquaio invented such a basic punch