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Pacquiao & Klitsckhos success has caused RESENTMENT in certain "PEOPLE"
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Originally posted by Deedubbzz07 View PostIts another attempt to discredit Pac. Implying that in order to be a legit ATG, you have to beat AA fighters. This of course is ludacris.
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Americans of any race aren't doing well in boxing anymore.
Pac has only been at 140+ for two years. Before then there was only one black american fighter on the map, Nate Campbell, who was on a huge losing streak from 2004-2006 where he lost 4 fights. He didn't make any noise again until 2008, after Pac had exited 135, when he upset Juan Diaz and became champ.
Bradley and Alexander are just now in the past couple years rising up to being well known figures at 140.
Paul The Punisher Williams has been wanting Pac or Pavlik for a minute, but he couldn't get a crowd of 50 people to watch him fight in front of Mcdonalds. Uncle Bob isnt going to match Pacquiao with someone from another company if they arent bringing any money to the table. If Williams really wants the fight he would probably have to do what Shanes trying to do; leave his promoter and sign with Top Rank.
Floyd Mayweather is the BEST slick black fighter, and the best opponent for Pacquiao. Floyd isn't interested in making the fight, so I don't see what people are *****ing about.
There aren't any other black fighters out there in a position to challenge Manny. Outside of Floyd, Marquez at 140 is probably the fight to make.
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Originally posted by paulf View PostAmericans of any race aren't doing well in boxing anymore.
Pac has only been at 140+ for two years. Before then there was only one black american fighter on the map, Nate Campbell, who was on a huge losing streak from 2004-2006 where he lost 4 fights. He didn't make any noise again until 2008, after Pac had exited 135, when he upset Juan Diaz and became champ.
Bradley and Alexander are just now in the past couple years rising up to being well known figures at 140.
Paul The Punisher Williams has been wanting Pac or Pavlik for a minute, but he couldn't get a crowd of 50 people to watch him fight in front of Mcdonalds. Uncle Bob isnt going to match Pacquiao with someone from another company if they arent bringing any money to the table. If Williams really wants the fight he would probably have to do what Shanes trying to do; leave his promoter and sign with Top Rank.
Floyd Mayweather is the BEST slick black fighter, and the best opponent for Pacquiao. Floyd isn't interested in making the fight, so I don't see what people are *****ing about.
There aren't any other black fighters out there in a position to challenge Manny. Outside of Floyd, Marquez at 140 is probably the fight to make.
im just talking about the mentality of certain "people" & how they treat manny & the k bros. its obvious there are some hidden racism in there.
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Originally posted by Deedubbzz07 View PostNot me. I totally agree. Brothas have always dominated sports, specifically boxing. But that don't mean a non-African American can't be the best. I know alot of brothas who feel this way, refusing to give Pac his dues. I ask them if they'd feel the same way if Pac was black, some have admitted that it would be alot easier to accept. Pisses me off. Fact is, Floyd just hasn't done enough to warrant the props that Pac is getting. And from the looks of things, it don't look like he wants anything to do with Pac.
Originally posted by Phenom View Postits cool for the Mexicans PR and the former USSR boxers to say that tho rightLast edited by Pirao; 11-19-2010, 05:24 AM.
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Originally posted by Brutal Honesty View PostI just read the bernard hopkins article on all the sites especially espn, & cant help but notice at all the "people" agreeing & defending bernard hopkins race baiting supremacy remark.
My opinion on this whole black slick fighter manny is not fighting is this:
Pacquiao's success & to a certain degree the klitscko brothers, has ruined the natural order in boxing. Meaning, the normal hierarchy has been disrupted. It has been turned upside down by pacquiao's reign as king, k brothers dominant reign at heavyweight. Specifically pacman's overwhelming boxing decorations, accolades, does not sit well with certain "people."
If you look at the history of p4p kings, it has been predominantly ruled by black american fighters. Even tracing back 100 years ago, it was always black & white fighters, then as time went on prominent white fighters were slowly dying & the dominance was replaced by almost exclusively by black fighters. People grew up & live rooting for the greatness & placement of black fighters. Boxing fans, specifically black fans & to a certain degeree white fans, are used to rooting for a black fighter on top.
What is happening now is that a non american non black is on top of the food chain & the people who usually root for black & every now & then a top p4p king latin fighter are resentful that its not a american black on top. To make matters worse, the heavyweight division has been ruled by an iron fist by eastern european champions.
This resentment, this spiteful, bitter jealous attitude reminds me of the movie american gangster starring denzel washington. russell crow's character told frank lucas that he has upset the natural order of the drug trade. the italians are mad that he has become the boss of the drug trade that is normally ruled by the italian mob.
Why cant certain "people" be happy that a new star & king is on top? Why are they so compelled to bring him down? It reminds me of this kat williams stand up where kat williams describes how white people cant even let black people enjoy president *****:
starting at 2:40 mark
Watch that whole video starting from the 240 mark. It perfectly describes this whole black race supremacy non sense.
Every p4p king has almost always been black & sometimes latino. Why cant we appreciate manny pacquiao as fresh new king? First asian fighter to be p4p king & we cant even let him enjoy his reign without trying to bring him down with this racist ideology.
Cant we just let his asian fans be proud for a minute? Havent the american black fans have had all the great fighters on top? Why cant historians compare pacquiao alongside armstrong & robinson as they have started to do? Is that so bad?
Why are you guys so selfish?
I totally agree,
I'm from europe you know,and I know afro americans had a tough history,with tough moments.
But it ain't allow them to play race cards so often.
From the outside,it looks like black people can be openly racist in USA without any problems.
Hopkins is a prick,his comment just show his bitterness,jealousy and ignorance.
How many top black fighters Pernell Withtaker has fought??Henri Armstrong??Joe Louis?
No one!!
And Hopkins will never ask this question because it's all about black supremacy.
Hopkins is a racist,and it ain't new.
This + Mayweather's dog eating comments.It's becoming a lot.
Hopkins and Mayweather are making their community looking bad.
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