Do you think Manny is on PEDS?

[Bring It On]

Of course he is, he can walk through bullets. A-side.

[SWEET_DADDY_21]

A lot of people just started accusing pac of being on roids cuz the mayweathers started bumpin their gums first. and we all know how the mayweathers can talk.... enough said

[check hook]

His in ring weights from the Morales fights is within 4 lbs of what he weighed for Marg last week. 144-148. It's not that amazing that he's maintained the same speed. I wouldn't say that he's increased his power. The only fighters he's KTFO with one punch has been Hatton, who almost had that happen to him from Lazcano.

Basically, all you have is his su****ious reaction to the drug tests. That's not enough to be so sure that he uses PEDs.

you are right i'm not 100% sure, but i am 90% sure, so i think my answer to the question is yes.

[generivera100]

Heck no !

First of, aside from never having tested positive in any tests he's taken, I just truly believe in his character that he would never take on an unfair advantage over another competitor in the sport he truly loves.

It shows in his character, he proved it last Saturday when he had Marg in deep trouble beginning the 10th round but never sought to destroy and permanently damage his opponent. He wasn't out to prove something that's already proven. He's just a good person and a great sportsman.

Just because he didn't fully comply with Floyd's demands doesn't mean he's on PED's. He has a perfect right not to let Floyd dictate the terms of something that the commission should handle. Perfect right. It's amazing that he even bent backwards and agreed to OST up to 7 days before the fight, which was more than fair!

[Reloaded]

Heck no !

First of, aside from never having tested positive in any tests he's taken, I just truly believe in his character that he would never take on an unfair advantage over another competitor in the sport he truly loves.

It shows in his character, he proved it last Saturday when he had Marg in deep trouble beginning the 10th round but never sought to destroy and permanently damage his opponent. He wasn't out to prove something that's already proven. He's just a good person and a great sportsman.
Just because he didn't fully comply with Floyd's demands doesn't mean he's on PED's. He has a perfect right not to let Floyd dictate the terms of something that the commission should handle. Perfect right. It's amazing that he even bent backwards and agreed to OST up to 7 days before the fight, which was more than fair!

He cheated on his wife didnt he , that has got to involve lying right , he has CW fights in rings the size of a ball park that force his already slow fighter into a hopeless no win deal and nothing more than a bag ,,, but thats not a stacked deck iis it ? no Mannys advantages here lol

And for 50 mil and the fame of kings he wouldnt take an illegal drug that could help him , would he , nah not Manny , maybe in the end the patsy is going to be Ariza with this beauty , oh Manny doesnt know what I give him , only I know ,,,,, *** off , is this soap opera even going down , let alone believed .

[Pudgemeister]

He cheated on his wife didnt he , that has got to involve lying right , he has CW fights in rings the size of a ball park that force his already slow fighter into a hopeless no win deal and nothing more than a bag ,,, but thats not a stacked deck iis it ? no Mannys advantages here lol

And for 50 mil and the fame of kings he wouldnt take an illegal drug that could help him , would he , nah not Manny , maybe in the end the patsy is going to be Ariza with this beauty , oh Manny doesnt know what I give him , only I know ,,,,, *** off , is this soap opera even going down , let alone believed .

First off, go take an English class. ****.

Do you honestly think the catchweights of 150 and 145 reduced Cotto and Marg to punching bags? Marg spent most of his career at 147 and by all accounts was in great shape. Those are the only catchweight fights Manny has been a part of.

Manny has made just about as much money as a Floyd fight would have given, gained a couple titles, AND the fame of kings, AND left Floyd basically out of he picture as far as the casual fan is concerned. Not a bad result from running away from a drug test, huh?

[bigsmoothh]

i pesonnally think yes. but i could be wrong, i mean how are you goin to get older,gain weight,be faster as time goes by. not only that his competition is highly observed. lets just say boxing now adays is more of a business than sport.

[check hook]

i pesonnally think yes. but i could be wrong, i mean how are you goin to get older,gain weight,be faster as time goes by. not only that his competition is highly observed. lets just say boxing now adays is more of a business than sport.

Agreed. This post sums it up nicely. We are talking about professional athletes with millions at stake. Cheating is undoubtedly rife.

[MindBat]

The Questions Remain And Haven't Been Answered...

First of all... I'll say we don't really know if Manny is or is not on PED's until he takes those tsets which are considered to be more stringent and effective at detecting drugs in BOTH blood AND urine.

BUT let's just start off with no fighter is accused by the boxing commissions of using or being on drugs... but the fighters must undergo testing -- Just In Case he/she is lying about it because there is that element of su****ion to begin with.

Second, there's something very wrong when a fighter's conditioning coach is on record/quoted as saying First: "I'm responsible for what he takes..." Then follows it up with the peculiar remark: "He has no idea what he takes..."

What kind of dumb-ass would publicly say those words when the heat is on? Then rather than immediately making a dire effort to correct the "mis-quote", waits a nice little while to "explain" what the comment really meant?

The most telling sign is nobody can explain that dumb remark away (except those who are su****ious) So the next best thing is ... denial. In other words... "Let's change the subject before the issue really gathers more attention than it should."

That's Su****ion #1

Second, if the main opponent is concerned about and is su****ious that his opponent might be on something - AND - the majority of the boxing public thinks it might be a good idea to use random testing since it is perhaps the most important, highest grossing, biggest fight in the history of boxing, - AND - the main opponent IS ALSO WILLING TO TAKE THE SAME DRUG TEST EVEN THOUGH HE HIMSELF HAS NEVER TESTED POSITIVE FOR DRUGS IN THE PAST, why doesn't the suspected fighter just take those tests especially after his own handlers considered the idea to be worth pursuing since the start of negotiations back in 2009?

That's Su****ion #2

Now -- Put the shoe on the other foot, and in this instance let's just take a wild guess and say that perhaps Manny asked Floyd to take those same tests because he suspected Floyd of being on something and Floyd flat out turned him down --

How would the boxing public react then??? Honestly.

Simple questions right?

[puga]

i pesonnally think yes. but i could be wrong, i mean how are you goin to get older,gain weight,be faster as time goes by. not only that his competition is highly observed. lets just say boxing now adays is more of a business than sport.

so how come vargas, mosely,morrrison etc could'nt be as succesful as pac?...they all were known to hav taken ped's.....why?....