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  • THe TRiNiTY
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    #11
    People don't honestly understand what a robbery really is. When a fight is SO one-sided that EVERYONE feels that fighter A won, but fighter B gets the nod... That's a robbery. A fight with some fairly close rounds, that is scored with a differential of a few points isn't a robbery.

    You might not agree with the outcome, but that fight wasn't even a robbery.

    If you wanted activity and pressure, Alexander wins. If you want accuracy, it's Kotelnik. It's all about what you look for.

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    • Dirk Diggler UK
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      #12
      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
      Clean effective punching~ both fights had one guy do a lot of that while teh other guy didn't hit a whole lot.

      It is horrible that you can't call it fairly~
      Its horrible that you cant stick to the topic. I had Dirrell winning but not by the dominant margin Kotelnik won. You're making a sweeping comparison on two fights that were not much alike at all. But carry on.

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      • The Gambler1981
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        #13
        Originally posted by THe TRiNiTY
        People don't honestly understand what a robbery really is. When a fight is SO one-sided that EVERYONE feels that fighter A won, but fighter B gets the nod... That's a robbery. A fight with some fairly close rounds, that is scored with a differential of a few points isn't a robbery.

        You might not agree with the outcome, but that fight wasn't even a robbery.

        If you wanted activity and pressure, Alexander wins. If you want accuracy, it's Kotelnik. It's all about what you look for.
        To me that is the difference between a bad decision and a robbery. A bad decision is somethign you disagree but not everyone feels the same way, with a robbery is something that is almost total agreement.

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        • The Gambler1981
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          #14
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          Its horrible that you cant stick to the topic. I had Dirrell winning but not by the dominant margin Kotelnik won. You're making a sweeping comparison on two fights that were not much alike at all. But carry on.
          That was a a worse decison to me and I would not call it a robbery, a bad decision but that was the closest I ahve seen in recent times..

          I thought Froch won three rounds that not dominant enough for you? every round he landed the better punches regardless of the fact if it was ugly or pretty.

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            #15
            Originally posted by The Gambler1981
            That was a a worse decison to me and I would not call it a robbery, a bad decision but that was the closest I ahve seen in recent times..

            I thought Froch won three rounds that not dominant enough for you? every round he landed the better punches regardless of the fact if it was ugly or pretty.
            Im still struggling to figure out what Froch vs Dirrell has to do with this thread...

            I thought Alexander was lucky to win 3 rounds.

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            • bojangles1987
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              #16
              I think it was a flat out robbery. I don't understand how Alexander could have been given any more than five rounds, and that's generous. IMO, there were at least 8 clear rounds where Kotelnik landed all the important shots, outlanded Alexander overall, controlled the fight, and made Alexander look foolish.

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              • The Gambler1981
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                #17
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                Im still struggling to figure out what Froch vs Dirrell has to do with this thread...

                I thought Alexander was lucky to win 3 rounds.
                It is about judging and robberies and about how people act about them, that fight is another example.

                Next.

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                • Dirk Diggler UK
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                  It is about judging and robberies and about how people act about them, that fight is another example.

                  Next.
                  One was a robbery, the other wasnt.

                  Next.

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                  • The Gambler1981
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                    One was a robbery, the other wasnt.

                    Next.
                    If you view one as a robbery they both were~

                    Unless you are outright saying you have zero objectivity.


                    Next.

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                    • New England
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                      #20
                      Cosign on the fight being entertaining
                      often disputed decisions come in entertaining fights


                      i'm of the opinion that alexander was hurt and gassed and fighting on guts late

                      he sounded the worse for ware during his interview with kellerman


                      alexander has virtually no left hand
                      kotelnik barely blinked when he got hit flush with that thing

                      bradley is a much more offensive fighter than kotelnik
                      i'm not sure if he will be as difficult to hit

                      it should be wildly entertaining

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