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Originally posted by letsgobrady View Postdiaz pressure fighter malgnaggi pure boxer who wins?
using your example of diaz vs paulie, it's obvious that diaz suffers several disadvantages against paulie, especially when it comes to reach, height, and weight.
this doesn't disprove that pressure fighters beat boxers, it just proves that the good big man always beats the good little man.
castillo pressure fighter mayweather pure boxer who wins?
your example is fallacious.
a great pure boxer beats a great everything even a great pressure fighter
boxers are not the end all and be all of boxing. I'm sorry
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Originally posted by champ_kw View PostTerrible assessment. Floyd has over a decade of championship level fights on his resume and you point to one fight (Castillo 1) as the example to beat him?
You know how many world class trainers thought "Floyd is a runner with brittle hands and not enought pop, let's pressure him.", only to be leaving the ring with a "L"?
I'm willing to bet this was the gameplan for 80% of Floyd's opponents and we see how that turned out.
So instead of looking at the 39 other times this thought process didn't work, you opt to look to the 1 time it was effective. I love the way you guys think. It'll make this board very interesting when Floyd completely embarrasses Pac easily.
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Originally posted by Pullcounter View Postwe are arguing about styles, not fighters. Once again, I'm talking about boxers in general, not wifebeater specifically.
I said as much in a previous post.
I said as much in a previous post jonny come lately.
wifebeater gets outworked. possibly dropped 1-2x in the early rounds.
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The type of fighter that would be able to defeat Floyd is someone that has better footwork than him (Manny Pacquiao and Andre Dirrell are the two only fighters whom I can think of that have better footwork than anyone else in boxing today).
This fighter would then have to cut-off the ring and then keep Floyd cornered or on the ropes while throwing combos so quick and powerful that if Floyd lands one, he'll pay by getting hit by three or four more shots than his opponent.
I believe Manny Pacquiao has more of an advantage over Paul Williams in this regard because of his superior footwork.
While Williams does have a great output pct., he'd still be too slow on his feet to neutralize Floyds ring generalship.Last edited by Mr. Mark; 11-17-2010, 10:44 PM.
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Originally posted by Pullcounter View Postwe are talking about styles. when you actually get into a fight, there are more things to consider than just styles.
using your example of diaz vs paulie, it's obvious that diaz suffers several disadvantages against paulie, especially when it comes to reach, height, and weight.
this doesn't disprove that pressure fighters beat boxers, it just proves that the good big man always beats the good little man.
castillo arguably beat wifebeater in the first fight but wifebeater isn't pure boxer anyways. wifebeater can pressure and in-fight when he needs/wants to.your example is fallacious.
nope. pressure fighters beat boxers. boxers beat punchers. punchers beat pressure fighters.
boxers are not the end all and be all of boxing. I'm sorry
pure boxer is the worst style fore every other style to fight get over it.no pure boxer who is mentally strong will ever get dominated, if they were to lose it would be barely
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Originally posted by champ_kw View PostYou said all that to say what?
U got in a few more "wifebeater" taunts?
Only to say "I said the same thing" practically about my entire post...its not personal. I'll be the recipient of your weird "Johnny come lately" taunts.
Truth be told, Roach is on record as saying this is the most challenging fight for Manny.
Nice to see you think rushing him and "outworking" him is Roach's definition of challenging.
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Originally posted by letsgobrady View Posthow is floyd not a pure boxer?
floyd won the 1st 4 rounds on everyones scorecard and the first 5 rounds on some so how could he possibly lose?the worst he could of got was a draw.
pure boxer is the worst style fore every other style to fight get over it.
no pure boxer who is mentally strong will ever get dominated,
if they were to lose it would be barely
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ON THE LIGHTER SIDE,
floyd jr own style has already beaten his own self!
he is currently scheduled to appear for court hearing in jan 2011!
no need to beat floyd jr inside the ring, he's been beaten up by his own self!
In reality however,
Pacman always improve in every fights he does,
Pacman style and scientific approach will certainly frustrate Floyd jr.!
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