Last 3 Fights Total Punch % Landed On Mayweather & Pacquiao

[sigrab jr]

bad thread.

do you even watch pac? statistics lie. pac LET margs, clottey, and cotto hit him just to make a statement in spots, that's when the majority of those punches are landed.


too easy.

Yeah, Pacquiao let them hit him. Gatti also let his opponents hit him.

When you don't have good defense, you'll most likely give up and let your opponents hit you in return for hitting them back.

Too ******.

[FloydTBE]

the summary is that Floyd beats Pacquiao

[The Gambler1981]

Why it worst?

He has only really fought 2 on his whole career. Chavez who was throwing 100 punches a round, and Castillo who gave him 2 of the 3 toughest fight of his career and arguably won the first fight.

So I repeat how is it worst? Being a counter puncher is the worst thing against Floyd. Because, you not out counter punch Floyd, being defensive minded is the worst thing you can be against Floyd, cuz you not going to out smart, out defend Floyd...

Those are the worse things you can be against Floyd not volume punching. It has been proven that you can have success against Floyd being a volume puncher. Now can you still have that success? I don't know cuz he hasn't fought one since Castillo.

I am honestly shocked that you believe volume punching is the worst thing you can be against Floyd. When counter punchers or defensive minded fighters will not out do Floyd in his own department.

And, for the record that is not even my point anyways. I am not saying a volume puncher would beat Floyd or that Pac will beat Floyd. So calm down I am not saying your dude is going to lose. My point is that I don't know if Floyd can drastically reduce a volume puncher output. Since I have not seen it. Not saying that he can't and he has nothing to do with winning or losing. But, I haven't seen him face one since 2002.

I already told you a long time ago I saw no reason why Margarito was a threat to Floyd this is an extension of that,. you look at different things tahn I do.

If throwin a lot of punches is a guys best way to win, fighting a guys who best option involves avoiding getting hit an firing back, it does not take a brain surgeon to know what the most liekly outcome is, unless the volume guys is just a machine and can fire back regardless of the situation.

A volume puncher that can not make his volume effective is something like a turtle on it's back. I just don't see how you get from volume punching to beating Floyd, throwing more than him helps but if you throw willy-nily you are playing Floyd's game unless you can land a good ammount in return but even then that is a matter of quality and if a volume guy is looking to land shots his output will automatically drop (if they want to win).

[Walt Liquor]

I hate it when Pac fans say that. Sure he did so to test their power early on, but don't act as if he let it happened on purpose thereafter.

i'm not acting. im not saying that every time he got hit, he did it on purpose. but manny does it in spurts throughout the fight to show you who's tougher. it's part of the fighter that he is.

[Walt Liquor]

Yeah, Pacquiao let them hit him. Gatti also let his opponents hit him.

When you don't have good defense, you'll most likely give up and let your opponents hit you in return for hitting them back.

Too ******.

pac's like gatti? awesome

[The Gambler1981]

i'm not acting. im not saying that every time he got hit, he did it on purpose. but manny does it in spurts throughout the fight to show you who's tougher. it's part of the fighter that he is.

I don't think he is going to have to let Floyd hit him, and letting a pro hit you hard as **** can get anyone ask Mayorga.

If Manny goes in there to prove he is a tougher man does that make you like his chances? Standing up to bullies is great but against a more thoughtful oppoenet such a tactic is wasted.

[AKATheMack]

If I threw 1 punch and landed it on someone and he threw 100 and landed 50 my punch percentage would be twice his. Doesnt mean anything at all.

[Walt Liquor]

I don't think he is going to have to let Floyd hit him, and letting a pro hit you hard as **** can get anyone ask Mayorga.

If Manny goes in there to prove he is a tougher man does that make you like his chances? Standing up to bullies is great but against a more thoughtful oppoenet such a tactic is wasted.

I'm not saying he'll do it vs floyd or not.

I'm saying it raises his opponents connect % against him.

He's obviously not the defensive wizard that floyd is, but that doesn't exclude him from being considered slick. just the number of angles he punches from and his footwork/speed is going to make him slick.

Using punch stats to prove/disprove slickness is just reaching. Obviously if people were connecting 40% against pac, this thread would have an excuse to exist.

So if there are less punches landed against Vitali than floyd, are we to consider vitali to be slicker than floyd?

[ThePrince]

People claiming he's slick. When Margarito can land 28% of his punches on you, you're not slick at all.

Margarito is a big pressure fighter. Check the last time Mayweather fought (and lost) to a big pressure fighter in Castillo... what was the % landed then? Does this mean Mayweather isn't 'slick'?

[savorduhflavor]

How did the % of punches Marquez landed on Mayweather change from 16% to 12%?