The misconception between curiosity and hate...

[Pacquiao'd]

ok I'll bite..

Answer me this..
Let's say, yes, Pacquiao DID lie about the agreeing to 0 days cutoff, now obviously the fight is off and Pac fought Marg.

So that's the past, Now let's talk present...

Pac's stance right now:

1. Cutoff from 30 days, to 24 days, to 0 days - but he lied, OK, so it's really 7 days (per Konz on 24/7).
2. Pac, on recent interviews, including Marg post fight...when asked if he'd fight Floyd, Pac straight up said that he'll fight Anybody and Anywhere as long as there are no problems in the Negotiations.

Floyd's stance right now:
1. From 0 days to 14, then back to 0 days.
2. Floyd's last interview regarding Pac after Mosley bout, he says no bloodtest, no fight (I'm assuming he meant 0 days cutoff)

So, based on the FACTS I stated above, Can you sit there, and honestly, honestly, without being biased, please tell me right now...what's the BEST WAY to make the fight happen that is FAIR to both camps?

you left out some things which totally changes you arguement.

first, pac and roach originally agreed to full testing without cutoffs then to 30 days, 24, 14, now 7

there is no need to assume. floyd said, if they want cut off days and dont want to take full testing with cut off, there is no fight.

howmuch fairer do you want floyd to be? he agreed to what pac asked. pac didnt. floyd even came of the 0 days and gave pac 14 just to have pac refuse again. so at that point, there is no need to compromise any longer on that issue.

pacs actions warrant testing, for sure

[al-Xander]

when i guy has no regard for a contract and will just pay his way out of his breech of contract, whats the only way to get him not to break the contract, negotiate a high penalty for breaking that contract, if you knew anything about contract law or negotiations you would understand that.

because floyd, fighting his smaller opponents above their best weight class, then coming in heavier than the contracted weight, all to pay a fine and then have an even bigger advantage over his opponent, having no regard for the contract, leaving the other fighter at a disadvantage, a high penalty set against a guy who covets money like mayweather is the best way to get him to honor the contract, and if he doesn't it's going to cost him.

thats negotiations, and floyd tried making his rules part of negotiations, but he went about it the wrong way and it blew up in his face and now floyd is in damage control....... and now that he's slapping girls around and security guards, thinking he's above all law, he's going to be out of th ering for a ong time to come, and more than likely will be fighting for free when he does because he's going to owe a lot of money after this, and im not talking about paying out people in him losing his court cases, i'm talking about his lawyers who will charge more than OJ's legal team, thats if he's smart enough to hire a good legal team.......


so to keep floyd in honor of the contract, like in all contract law, you set terms, limits, and operational procedures........... that was all that was done with the 10 million per pound, which was negotiable...... why not negotiate?maybe because floyd would have no plan in honoring the contract thinking manny would just take a few hundred grand like marquez did.........

floyd has a long history of not honoring contracts, from home loans, to ***elry, to garbage and sewer bills, etc........... all the way to the marquez fight............ so it's not without reasonable standing to put such a clause into the contract, given mayweathers track record............

Thread should end right here.

[deejd]

Hey i see what you are trying to say. I just think that anyone who is not for random testing in this steroid age needs to have their moral compasses checked. I mean if you are a fan of manny and you 100% believe he is clean then that is fine but the question has been raised and now that it has dont you want to know. I would especially if it was a sports figure i liked. So once he passes it then there are no excuses. I can say my guy is the best at whatever and he did it clean. It just seems like pac supporters just dont want to risk that which actually make me think they wonder too.

Exactly, comanick, I agree 100% with and appreciate your viewpoint.

[Pacquiao'd]

when i guy has no regard for a contract and will just pay his way out of his breech of contract, whats the only way to get him not to break the contract, negotiate a high penalty for breaking that contract, if you knew anything about contract law or negotiations you would understand that.

because floyd, fighting his smaller opponents above their best weight class, then coming in heavier than the contracted weight, all to pay a fine and then have an even bigger advantage over his opponent, having no regard for the contract, leaving the other fighter at a disadvantage, a high penalty set against a guy who covets money like mayweather is the best way to get him to honor the contract, and if he doesn't it's going to cost him.

thats negotiations, and floyd tried making his rules part of negotiations, but he went about it the wrong way and it blew up in his face and now floyd is in damage control....... and now that he's slapping girls around and security guards, thinking he's above all law, he's going to be out of th ering for a ong time to come, and more than likely will be fighting for free when he does because he's going to owe a lot of money after this, and im not talking about paying out people in him losing his court cases, i'm talking about his lawyers who will charge more than OJ's legal team, thats if he's smart enough to hire a good legal team.......


so to keep floyd in honor of the contract, like in all contract law, you set terms, limits, and operational procedures........... that was all that was done with the 10 million per pound, which was negotiable...... why not negotiate?maybe because floyd would have no plan in honoring the contract thinking manny would just take a few hundred grand like marquez did.........

floyd has a long history of not honoring contracts, from home loans, to ***elry, to garbage and sewer bills, etc........... all the way to the marquez fight............ so it's not without reasonable standing to put such a clause into the contract, given mayweathers track record............

whats funny is that you are talkking about floyd fighting JMM at 144 when pac wants him at 147. double standard # 1

pac has come into a fight over weight as well. double standard #2

pac was fighting at lower weight classes as the bigger man. double standard #3

and the rest of your post is downright dumb

[al-Xander]

when i guy has no regard for a contract and will just pay his way out of his breech of contract, whats the only way to get him not to break the contract, negotiate a high penalty for breaking that contract, if you knew anything about contract law or negotiations you would understand that.

because floyd, fighting his smaller opponents above their best weight class, then coming in heavier than the contracted weight, all to pay a fine and then have an even bigger advantage over his opponent, having no regard for the contract, leaving the other fighter at a disadvantage, a high penalty set against a guy who covets money like mayweather is the best way to get him to honor the contract, and if he doesn't it's going to cost him.

thats negotiations, and floyd tried making his rules part of negotiations, but he went about it the wrong way and it blew up in his face and now floyd is in damage control....... and now that he's slapping girls around and security guards, thinking he's above all law, he's going to be out of th ering for a ong time to come, and more than likely will be fighting for free when he does because he's going to owe a lot of money after this, and im not talking about paying out people in him losing his court cases, i'm talking about his lawyers who will charge more than OJ's legal team, thats if he's smart enough to hire a good legal team.......


so to keep floyd in honor of the contract, like in all contract law, you set terms, limits, and operational procedures........... that was all that was done with the 10 million per pound, which was negotiable...... why not negotiate?maybe because floyd would have no plan in honoring the contract thinking manny would just take a few hundred grand like marquez did.........

floyd has a long history of not honoring contracts, from home loans, to ***elry, to garbage and sewer bills, etc........... all the way to the marquez fight............ so it's not without reasonable standing to put such a clause into the contract, given mayweathers track record............

True. There's a reason for everything.
There's no reason based on nothing.

[Pacquiao'd]

Thread should end right here.

too bad it was a dumb post if you read it. full of contradictions, double standards and lies

[deejd]

too bad it was a dumb post if you read it. full of contradictions, double standards and lies

That's exactly why I didn't respond to it, but stellar job putting brick on blast.

Pacquiao faithfuls continue to argue for the penalty due to the JMM fight and I continually tell them, find me the fight at 147 pounds that Mayweather didn't make weight...? Then they go back to JMM.

If you ask me, there's no reason at 147 for Pacquiao to request a weight penalty, but cool, whatever, Mayweather agreed anyway.

The problem with that was the amount. Pacquiao could have request one million per pound and that would have been okay even though that's not the commissions penalty for weight. BUT ten million, really?

It was a clear bluff thrown by Pacquiao to try to get Mayweather to back out of the fight and abandon his random drug testing stance.

[IMDAZED]

ok I'll bite..

Answer me this..
Let's say, yes, Pacquiao DID lie about the agreeing to 0 days cutoff, now obviously the fight is off and Pac fought Marg.

So that's the past, Now let's talk present...

Pac's stance right now:

1. Cutoff from 30 days, to 24 days, to 0 days - but he lied, OK, so it's really 7 days (per Konz on 24/7).
2. Pac, on recent interviews, including Marg post fight...when asked if he'd fight Floyd, Pac straight up said that he'll fight Anybody and Anywhere as long as there are no problems in the Negotiations.

Floyd's stance right now:
1. From 0 days to 14, then back to 0 days.
2. Floyd's last interview regarding Pac after Mosley bout, he says no bloodtest, no fight (I'm assuming he meant 0 days cutoff)

So, based on the FACTS I stated above, Can you sit there, and honestly, honestly, without being biased, please tell me right now...what's the BEST WAY to make the fight happen that is FAIR to both camps?

They each had their stipulations so what's the problem, bud? And given that you admit Manny lied in the past, what do you think is fair? Good post, BTW.

[al-Xander]

too bad it was a dumb post if you read it. full of contradictions, double standards and lies

Forget about Pac, bud.
There's always Malignaggi willing to bow down
to Master Floyd. That is if the other competition
are too scary for Floyd.

[Pacquiao'd]

That's exactly why I didn't respond to it, but stellar job putting brick on blast.

Pacquiao faithfuls continue to argue for the penalty due to the JMM fight and I continually tell them, find me the fight at 147 pounds that Mayweather didn't make weight...? Then they go back to JMM.

If you ask me, there's no reason at 147 for Pacquiao to request a weight penalty, but cool, whatever, Mayweather agreed anyway.

The problem with that was the amount. Pacquiao could have request one million per pound and that would have been okay even though that's not the commissions penalty for weight. BUT ten million, really?

It was a clear bluff thrown by Pacquiao to try to get Mayweather to back out of the fight and abandon his random drug testing stance.

yep..................