The misconception between curiosity and hate...

[comanick]

Most fans don't care, which I think is fine. Why should they average fan care? But then they should understand exactly why Mayweather does. I don't remember Floyd trying to negotiate ring size or the amount he would pay if he went over the weight. He just said, "ok" and agreed to it. That was that. With Manny it's 30 days, it's 24, then it's 14, now it's seven. How about...STFU and just take the tests because at this point you're making everyone nervous--even his fans who will never admit it on here.

Yeah im started to notice that. It seems like his supporters dont really care if he on anything or not. Well Im an athlete and i care about things like that. Sorry if that makes me a bad guy/hater or whatever.

[Mayabang]

Maya...but why does there HAVE to be a cutoff? Doesn't rational thinking come into play here?

So the 3 days cutoff is still ain't good enough for you huh? I guess you don't want the fight to happen, that's how you feel then I respect that.

That is exactly what i thought.
Maya- i see what you are saying and in the spirit of making the fight i understand your 3 day suggestion just so we can get the fight. hey if that gets it done then cool with me.
But in principal you really shouldnt be trying to negotiate a random test. I want the fight to happen badly and like i said earlier i never thought pac was taking anything but him making such a big deal out of this makes me wonder a little. I mean dont you wonder at this point or do you not care as long as you get the fight.

I don't care as long as the fight gets made. So you think the 3 days cutoff is still not good enough? If not, then what's your solution that will make team Pac 'reconsider'?

Most fans don't care, which I think is fine. Why should they average fan care? But then they should understand exactly why Mayweather does. I don't remember Floyd trying to negotiate ring size or the amount he would pay if he went over the weight. He just said, "ok" and agreed to it. That was that. With Manny it's 30 days, it's 24, then it's 14, now it's seven. How about...STFU and just take the tests because at this point you're making everyone nervous--even his fans who will never admit it on here.

So what's your solution that will possibly salvage the fight?

Yeah im started to notice that. It seems like his supporters dont really care if he on anything or not. Well Im an athlete and i care about things like that. Sorry if that makes me a bad guy/hater or whatever.

You're not a hater, you just don't want the fight to happen.

[IMDAZED]

So the 3 days cutoff is still ain't good enough for you huh? I guess you don't want the fight to happen, that's how you feel then I respect that.

It's not about me. I'm not fighting. It's about someone else being su****ious about a guy and his team making countless shoddy statements. Maybe they don't want the fight to happen? Or...maybe they don't want to take the tests.

I don't care as long as the fight gets made. So you think the 3 days cutoff is still not good enough? If not, then what's your solution that will make team Pac 'reconsider'?

Just take the tests. Who cares? Why does it matter when they stop or start? Who thinks about that **** except someone shady?

So what's your solution that will possibly salvage the fight?

The same way Floyd didn't want to negotiate the $10million, or have it cut down to $5m, or complain about the kind of glove Manny wanted, Manny should just accept his one stipulation. Fair is fair on both sides. Get it done.

[deejd]

See here's the difference between you and me: You're a ***** so you you will stick with the 0 days till the end, and so you will never submit and give a **** about the fight happening. I, on the other hand, wants the fight to happen. So I try to find a resolution between the 2 camps, when what you're doing is pretty much NOT HELPING. Sad part is you don't see that one bit at all. If you sit there and tell me that you really want the fight to happen, but at the same time not acknowledge that there won't be a fight if the 0 cutoff days stay, then you're just a plain dumbass. You kept writing irrelevant issues that doesn't help with the cause. It's like talking to a little kid. 0 days is obviously an issue for Pac's camp thats why there's no fight, yet you say it should be a non-issue? WTF?

7 days cutoff = No Fight
0 days cutoff = No Fight

You seriously can't get that to your head?

You can name call as much as you want, it doesn't strengthen your stance as to why there should be a cutoff date. If you believe Pacquiao is clean, and more importantly, if Pacquiao believes Pacquiao is clean, than why cry for a cutoff date.

If I'm Pacquiao, I already have Mayweather beat because he's under the impression that I'm a dirty fighter and he's scared to fight me without testing, right? But since I'm clean and I've destroyed everyone leading up to Mayweather in natural fashion, then you better believe I'll donate blood so I can beat the brakes off Mayweather and get this fifty million.

You're completely avoiding the fact that you're okay with a cutoff date for random testing. What sense does that make? Just because I don't agree with a 7 or 3 day cutoff date doesn't mean I don't want the bout to take place, it's clear that you ride Pacquiao and that's fine, but instead of riding Pacquiao, why not question what's wrong with no cutoff date? For goodness sake, just call Mayweather's bluff if he supposedly doesn't want the fight, correct?

Mayweather agreed to everything Pacquiao requested for the sake of making the fight. The single stipulation Mayweather asks for, he even compromised and Pacquiao still wouldn't agree. What more do you, personally, want Maya?

Just say that you hate Mayweather, that would make more sense than you making weak explanations as to why somebody doesn't want to take tests.

[IMDAZED]

You can name call as much as you want, it doesn't strengthen your stance as to why there should be a cutoff date. If you believe Pacquiao is clean, and more importantly, if Pacquiao believes Pacquiao is clean, than why cry for a cutoff date.

If I'm Pacquiao, I already have Mayweather beat because he's under the impression that I'm a dirty fighter and he's scared to fight me without testing, right? But since I'm clean and I've destroyed everyone leading up to Mayweather in natural fashion, then you better believe I'll donate blood so I can beat the brakes off Mayweather and get this fifty million.

You're completely avoiding the fact that you're okay with a cutoff date for random testing. What sense does that make? Just because I don't agree with a 7 or 3 day cutoff date doesn't mean I don't want the bout to take place, it's clear that you ride Pacquiao and that's fine, but instead of riding Pacquiao, why not question what's wrong with no cutoff date? For goodness sake, just call Mayweather's bluff is he supposedly doesn't want the fight, correct?

Mayweather agreed ot everything Pacquiao requested for the sake of making the fight. The single stipulation Mayweather asks for, he even compromised and Pacquiao still wouldn't agree. What more do you, personally, want Maya?

Just say that you hate Mayweather, that would make more sense than you making weak explanations as to why somebody doesn't want to take tests.

Great, great post. I'm sure this debate will bog down into the usual BS but well done.

[deejd]

Great, great post. I'm sure this debate will bog down into the usual BS but well done.

No doubt dude. The sad part is that this thread wasn't at all suppose to bog back down to this issue hahaha.

[deejd]

Most fans don't care, which I think is fine. Why should they average fan care? But then they should understand exactly why Mayweather does. I don't remember Floyd trying to negotiate ring size or the amount he would pay if he went over the weight. He just said, "ok" and agreed to it. That was that. With Manny it's 30 days, it's 24, then it's 14, now it's seven. How about...STFU and just take the tests because at this point you're making everyone nervous--even his fans who will never admit it on here.

True indeed, dazed. Couldn't have said it better.

[deejd]

Yeah im started to notice that. It seems like his supporters dont really care if he on anything or not. Well Im an athlete and i care about things like that. Sorry if that makes me a bad guy/hater or whatever.

Not at all, comanick. That's the problem, though, Freddie Roach, Muhammad Ali, Meldrick Taylor, these fighters get hit and have to worry about the consequences down the line and a fan doesn't think about those long-term affects. The fan doesn't care because they're not the ones risking their well-being.

I still remember Pacquiao fans stating that a test during the presser, 30 days, and right after the fight was fine.

Riiiight, because after the fight when all the damage is done, that's when testing matters...?

[deejd]

It's not about me. I'm not fighting. It's about someone else being su****ious about a guy and his team making countless shoddy statements. Maybe they don't want the fight to happen? Or...maybe they don't want to take the tests.


Just take the tests. Who cares? Why does it matter when they stop or start? Who thinks about that **** except someone shady?


The same way Floyd didn't want to negotiate the $10million, or have it cut down to $5m, or complain about the kind of glove Manny wanted, Manny should just accept his one stipulation. Fair is fair on both sides. Get it done.

Bravisimo hombre. This isn't a hard task to solve at all.

[Mayabang]

You can name call as much as you want, it doesn't strengthen your stance as to why there should be a cutoff date. If you believe Pacquiao is clean, and more importantly, if Pacquiao believes Pacquiao is clean, than why cry for a cutoff date.

If I'm Pacquiao, I already have Mayweather beat because he's under the impression that I'm a dirty fighter and he's scared to fight me without testing, right? But since I'm clean and I've destroyed everyone leading up to Mayweather in natural fashion, then you better believe I'll donate blood so I can beat the brakes off Mayweather and get this fifty million.

You're completely avoiding the fact that you're okay with a cutoff date for random testing. What sense does that make? Just because I don't agree with a 7 or 3 day cutoff date doesn't mean I don't want the bout to take place, it's clear that you ride Pacquiao and that's fine, but instead of riding Pacquiao, why not question what's wrong with no cutoff date? For goodness sake, just call Mayweather's bluff if he supposedly doesn't want the fight, correct?

Mayweather agreed to everything Pacquiao requested for the sake of making the fight. The single stipulation Mayweather asks for, he even compromised and Pacquiao still wouldn't agree. What more do you, personally, want Maya?

Just say that you hate Mayweather, that would make more sense than you making weak explanations as to why somebody doesn't want to take tests.

I love how you can't even answer logically and form YOUR OWN OPINION. It's amazing how much you care about Floyd and this OST BS, when Floyd doesn't give an ounce of SHIT about You, he doesn't know you.

What more do I want? Can't you seriously read? How many times to I have to spell out that I just want the fight to happen, but you keep talking about Floyd. Pathetic.

You're right about one thing, I DO WISH Pac would stop the drama and just take the damn tests and I DO WISH that Floyd would just accept the 7 days to make the fight happen. But guess what buddy, I'm not Pac, and I'm not Floyd, so I can't force them to do shit. It's called 'reality' and for some weird reason you really can't grasp that, which is so fucking strange, lol.

And me riding Pac? lol, yeah that's why I'm the one that brought up a solution of 3 days cutoff, yet you guys are NOT BUDGING one bit from your 0 days.

It's funny how you keep bringing up details regarding drugtesting - I DON'T GIVE A SHIT. All I care about is the fight being made, and that's why I brought up the 3 days cutoff. And how do you make the fight? By coming to an agreement regarding the drug testing. So..tell me wise man, how do you do that? hmm? I'll wait...