The misconception between curiosity and hate...

[deejd]

dude, just give up. You're a full-time hardcore *****. Why do you keep debating...FIGHT IS NOT GONNA HAPPEN based on your opinion. So give it up, you win, NO Fight.

lol you guys are hilarious with writing up all these OST arguments. Do you think it's gonna make a difference at all? Who are you kidding, give it up. You love Floyd, You hate Pac, and Fight won't happen.

As much as you post about the fight not happening, I'd say you're the one that doesn't want it to happen.

I'm simply posting this in an effort for Pacquiao faithfuls to protest the fact that Pacquiao's refusal to random testing not once, but twice, was the reason the fight hasn't come to fruition.

If you don't want Pacquiao to test, then you don't want the fight and more importantly, the truth.

I, maya****, want the truth. Third times a charm.

[deejd]

Clearly, this guy just want to argue. He's not interested in any kind of resolution. These questions of his have been answered millions of times already.

How? There hasn't been a plausible answer for either.

If you say the commission allowed catchweights for titles (though never answering whether its been done), then you can't say its wrong to use random drug testing because the commission allowed that as well when it hasn't been done before.

The ten million dollar penalty has never occurred in the boxing history. Find me where it has...?

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Has the amount of ten million dollars ever been requested for a weight penalty?

Have titles that were fought for and won at the full weight limit ever been fought for at catchweights until now?

when i guy has no regard for a contract and will just pay his way out of his breech of contract, whats the only way to get him not to break the contract, negotiate a high penalty for breaking that contract, if you knew anything about contract law or negotiations you would understand that.

because floyd, fighting his smaller opponents above their best weight class, then coming in heavier than the contracted weight, all to pay a fine and then have an even bigger advantage over his opponent, having no regard for the contract, leaving the other fighter at a disadvantage, a high penalty set against a guy who covets money like mayweather is the best way to get him to honor the contract, and if he doesn't it's going to cost him.

thats negotiations, and floyd tried making his rules part of negotiations, but he went about it the wrong way and it blew up in his face and now floyd is in damage control....... and now that he's slapping girls around and security guards, thinking he's above all law, he's going to be out of th ering for a ong time to come, and more than likely will be fighting for free when he does because he's going to owe a lot of money after this, and im not talking about paying out people in him losing his court cases, i'm talking about his lawyers who will charge more than OJ's legal team, thats if he's smart enough to hire a good legal team.......


so to keep floyd in honor of the contract, like in all contract law, you set terms, limits, and operational procedures........... that was all that was done with the 10 million per pound, which was negotiable...... why not negotiate?maybe because floyd would have no plan in honoring the contract thinking manny would just take a few hundred grand like marquez did.........

floyd has a long history of not honoring contracts, from home loans, to ***elry, to garbage and sewer bills, etc........... all the way to the marquez fight............ so it's not without reasonable standing to put such a clause into the contract, given mayweathers track record............

[deejd]

Can you show us the fighting for titles at catchweights rule?
-- You're slow. I already told you to email the commission. I didn't approve the fight as I'm not working there.

Or the ten million dollar weight penalty rule?
-- Watch JMM vs FMJ. And I thought you were an "AVID" boxing fan. Just go back a page and you should see the same answer.

You still haven't showed me the fighting for a title at a catchweight rule... I'm waiting...? Since you're stuck on commission rules, I'm sure you have it somewhere.

How much was the penalty for not making the catchweight of 144? Was it ten million dollars per pound??

You say FMJ vs JMM... that was contracted at 144 pounds. Pacquiao requested the fight at 147 pounds. Find me the fight where Mayweather didn't make 147 pounds? Do that for me would you, thanks.

[comanick]

Can you show me this OST rule then? So for you, its ok for Floyd not go by those standards when it works in his favor.

Looks like your the one using moronic arguments as long as it fits your point.

See thats what i mean. You are totally missing the point. I think fighters have the right to request things that go beyond the comission. What im saying is pac supporters think its ok that he do it but when someone wants to do it to him then it "lets go to the comission". That is hypocritical. If you dont see at least that then there is nothing left to say.

[deejd]

Looks like someone got cornered and showed his true color and ignorance. All I wanted to accomplish was to expose this "AVID UNBIASED BOXING FAN" and was greatly disappointed. This would shame the real avid unbiased boxing fan.

Mission Accomplish. Good day.

Hahaha, I am an avid fan of the sport, but because I'm not an avid fan of Pacquiao nor do I support his refusal to testing, I come off as bias.

Clearly you haven't read where I stated that should this be "fighter A" requesting random drug testing for Mayweather and he rejected, I'd be questioning him.

You could substitute any two names in boxing, don't care, if somebody speculates, fire back by proving them wrong.

It just so happens that everything boxing is Pacquiao, sadly, when there's more and better talent that deserve boxing's spotlight.

[deejd]

See thats what i mean. You are totally missing the point. I think fighters have the right to request things that go beyond the comission. What im saying is pac supporters think its ok that he do it but when someone wants to do it to him then it "lets go to the comission". That is hypocritical. If you dont see at least that then there is nothing left to say.

And that's been my main point for this entire thread. Pacquiao can do whatever he wants and get away with it. That's how he's holding the sport hostage.

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One last word for you *****: More info

[deejd]

One last word for you *****: More info

Did you find those answers yet?

Glad that you took the time out of your life to respond to my little ol' thread, really though, I appreciate it.

[comanick]

And that's been my main point for this entire thread. Pacquiao can do whatever he wants and get away with it. That's how he's holding the sport hostage.

Hey i see what you are trying to say. I just think that anyone who is not for random testing in this steroid age needs to have their moral compasses checked. I mean if you are a fan of manny and you 100% believe he is clean then that is fine but the question has been raised and now that it has dont you want to know. I would especially if it was a sports figure i liked. So once he passes it then there are no excuses. I can say my guy is the best at whatever and he did it clean. It just seems like pac supporters just dont want to risk that which actually make me think they wonder too.