The misconception between curiosity and hate...

[The Evil 1-2]

You can name call as much as you want, it doesn't strengthen your stance as to why there should be a cutoff date. If you believe Pacquiao is clean, and more importantly, if Pacquiao believes Pacquiao is clean, than why cry for a cutoff date.

If I'm Pacquiao, I already have Mayweather beat because he's under the impression that I'm a dirty fighter and he's scared to fight me without testing, right? But since I'm clean and I've destroyed everyone leading up to Mayweather in natural fashion, then you better believe I'll donate blood so I can beat the brakes off Mayweather and get this fifty million.

You're completely avoiding the fact that you're okay with a cutoff date for random testing. What sense does that make? Just because I don't agree with a 7 or 3 day cutoff date doesn't mean I don't want the bout to take place, it's clear that you ride Pacquiao and that's fine, but instead of riding Pacquiao, why not question what's wrong with no cutoff date? For goodness sake, just call Mayweather's bluff if he supposedly doesn't want the fight, correct?

Mayweather agreed to everything Pacquiao requested for the sake of making the fight. The single stipulation Mayweather asks for, he even compromised and Pacquiao still wouldn't agree. What more do you, personally, want Maya?

Just say that you hate Mayweather, that would make more sense than you making weak explanations as to why somebody doesn't want to take tests.

I love how you can't even answer logically and form YOUR OWN OPINION. It's amazing how much you care about Floyd and this OST BS, when Floyd doesn't give an ounce of SHIT about You, he doesn't know you.

What more do I want? Can't you seriously read? How many times to I have to spell out that I just want the fight to happen, but you keep talking about Floyd. Pathetic.

You're right about one thing, I DO WISH Pac would stop the drama and just take the damn tests and I DO WISH that Floyd would just accept the 7 days to make the fight happen. But guess what buddy, I'm not Pac, and I'm not Floyd, so I can't force them to do shit. It's called 'reality' and for some weird reason you really can't grasp that, which is so fucking strange, lol.

And me riding Pac? lol, yeah that's why I'm the one that brought up a solution of 3 days cutoff, yet you guys are NOT BUDGING one bit from your 0 days.

It's funny how you keep bringing up details regarding drugtesting - I DON'T GIVE A SHIT. All I care about is the fight being made, and that's why I brought up the 3 days cutoff. And how do you make the fight? By coming to an agreement regarding the drug testing. So..tell me wise man, how do you do that? hmm? I'll wait...

What exactly is wrong with testing with NO CUTOFF date. This is exactly what I don't get about Pac.

[IMDAZED]

I love how you can't even answer logically and form YOUR OWN OPINION. It's amazing how much you care about Floyd and this OST BS, when Floyd doesn't give an ounce of SHIT about You, he doesn't know you.

What more do I want? Can't you seriously read? How many times to I have to spell out that I just want the fight to happen, but you keep talking about Floyd. Pathetic.

You're right about one thing, I DO WISH Pac would stop the drama and just take the damn tests and I DO WISH that Floyd would just accept the 7 days to make the fight happen. But guess what buddy, I'm not Pac, and I'm not Floyd, so I can't force them to do shit. It's called 'reality' and for some weird reason you really can't grasp that, which is so fucking strange, lol.

And me riding Pac? lol, yeah that's why I'm the one that brought up a solution of 3 days cutoff, yet you guys are NOT BUDGING one bit from your 0 days.

It's funny how you keep bringing up details regarding drugtesting - I DON'T GIVE A SHIT. All I care about is the fight being made, and that's why I brought up the 3 days cutoff. And how do you make the fight? By coming to an agreement regarding the drug testing. So..tell me wise man, how do you do that? hmm? I'll wait...

If you don't give a **** about the details, why do you keep bringing up some three day cut-off you invented?

[deejd]

I love how you can't even answer logically and form YOUR OWN OPINION. It's amazing how much you care about Floyd and this OST BS, when Floyd doesn't give an ounce of SHIT about You, he doesn't know you.

What more do I want? Can't you seriously read? How many times to I have to spell out that I just want the fight to happen, but you keep talking about Floyd. Pathetic.

You're right about one thing, I DO WISH Pac would stop the drama and just take the damn tests and I DO WISH that Floyd would just accept the 7 days to make the fight happen. But guess what buddy, I'm not Pac, and I'm not Floyd, so I can't force them to do shit. It's called 'reality' and for some weird reason you really can't grasp that, which is so fucking strange, lol.

And me riding Pac? lol, yeah that's why I'm the one that brought up a solution of 3 days cutoff, yet you guys are NOT BUDGING one bit from your 0 days.

It's funny how you keep bringing up details regarding drugtesting - I DON'T GIVE A SHIT. All I care about is the fight being made, and that's why I brought up the 3 days cutoff. And how do you make the fight? By coming to an agreement regarding the drug testing. So..tell me wise man, how do you do that? hmm? I'll wait...

Are you angry? I'm sorry you feel you have to respond in such a personal manner. Let me try this differently.


"Fighter A" requested a ten million dollar weight penalty which has never been done before in boxing. The commission's rules don't even enforce that amount for such stipulation. "Fighter B" doesn't complain or try to negotiate, "fighter B" simply accepts the stipulation.

"Fighter B" then requests random drug testing, meaning no cutoff date, which also is not in the commission's rules. "Fighter A" rejects the random testing, then counters with a 30 day proposal. "Fighter B" sacrifices the random testing for a 14 day cutoff date in order to salvage the fight, take it or leave it. "Fighter A" rejects the offer.

"Fighter B" wants random testing now. "Fighter A" then says, 18 days, 14 days, and 7 days. That's still not random testing.

"Fighter A" is clean as a whistle, right? So what's the problem?

In case you still have zero idea of how random testing works, let's say "Fighter A" and "Fighter B" have taken blood tests 42, 31, 23, and 16 days out. Protocol could say, "well, everything is looking legit", and they decide not to take anymore blood tests until after the fight.... then what does a 3 day cutoff even matter? Or 7 day? Or a 1 day? It doesn't now does it?

You can say you don't care and you just want the fight to happen, but you really do come off as a Pac rider because it's clear that your angst toward Mayweather and those who aren't against the idea of random testing grind your gears, guy. It's okay, relax. You make emotional posts, not logic induced ones.

[Mayabang]

If you don't give a **** about the details, why do you keep bringing up some three day cut-off you invented?

Umm coz u asked me earlier what my solution is for both camps and so i wanted to find a common ground, hence the 3 days? Its called making a deal in terms of the drug issue. Its a simple as- if floyd sticks with 0 days or pac stays with 7 days, then theres no deal, meaning no fight. Surely that's basic logic to you right? And its obvious that you two are sticking with 0 days, which means what? Say it with me...no fight. At least admit that, theres nothing wrong with that if thats how u feel. I really dont see the issue.

[Mayabang]

Are you angry? I'm sorry you feel you have to respond in such a personal manner. Let me try this differently.


"Fighter A" requested a ten million dollar weight penalty which has never been done before in boxing. The commission's rules don't even enforce that amount for such stipulation. "Fighter B" doesn't complain or try to negotiate, "fighter B" simply accepts the stipulation.

"Fighter B" then requests random drug testing, meaning no cutoff date, which also is not in the commission's rules. "Fighter A" rejects the random testing, then counters with a 30 day proposal. "Fighter B" sacrifices the random testing for a 14 day cutoff date in order to salvage the fight, take it or leave it. "Fighter A" rejects the offer.

"Fighter B" wants random testing now. "Fighter A" then says, 18 days, 14 days, and 7 days. That's still not random testing.

"Fighter A" is clean as a whistle, right? So what's the problem?

In case you still have zero idea of how random testing works, let's say "Fighter A" and "Fighter B" have taken blood tests 42, 31, 23, and 16 days out. Protocol could say, "well, everything is looking legit", and they decide not to take anymore blood tests until after the fight.... then what does a 3 day cutoff even matter? Or 7 day? Or a 1 day? It doesn't now does it?

You can say you don't care and you just want the fight to happen, but you really do come off as a Pac rider because it's clear that your angst toward Mayweather and those who aren't against the idea of random testing grind your gears, guy. It's okay, relax. You make emotional posts, not logic induced ones.

lol there you go again...can you just answer me this, please, since you still haven't answered me from the very beginning.

If Pac's 7 days cutoff = No fight OR Mayweather's 0 days cutoff = No fight,
what do you propose they should do to come into agreement to fight? You keep dodging an extremely simple question, but you can't answer. You keep talking about the PAST negotiations.

All you have to do is say and admit that you stand by Floyd's request of no cutoff date, and No Fight, and you're fully supportive of this fight not happening for the greater good of the sport and drugs,it's really THAT SIMPLE.

[deejd]

lol there you go again...can you just answer me this, please, since you still haven't answered me from the very beginning.

If Pac's 7 days cutoff = No fight OR Mayweather's 0 days cutoff = No fight,
what do you propose they should do to come into agreement to fight? You keep dodging an extremely simple question, but you can't answer. You keep talking about the PAST negotiations.

All you have to do is say and admit that you stand by Floyd's request of no cutoff date, and No Fight, and you're fully supportive of this fight not happening for the greater good of the sport and drugs,it's really THAT SIMPLE.

It's easy, agree to random testing.

Don't lie about agreeing to test. Don't pitch 6,5,4,3,2,1 days out there; Call the bluff and find out if Mayweather will wiggle his way out of the fight, it's that simple and I stated that in an earlier post.

Of anybody in this thread, you're the only one that keeps mentioning "no fight" which leads me to believe that regardless of what happens from here, you either don't want Pacquiao to budge on testing or you just don't want him to fight Mayweather at all.

You've still provided no logical reasoning for why Pacquiao should not agree to random testing. You talk about compromising, Mayweather tried that already, you just have a selective memory, but that's a common symptom of all Pac riders and it's okay, I can deal with that.

[Mayabang]

It's easy, agree to random testing.

Don't lie about agreeing to test. Don't pitch 6,5,4,3,2,1 days out there; Call the bluff and find out if Mayweather will wiggle his way out of the fight, it's that simple and I stated that in an earlier post.

Of anybody in this thread, you're the only one that keeps mentioning "no fight" which leads me to believe that regardless of what happens from here, you either don't want Pacquiao to budge on testing or you just don't want him to fight Mayweather at all.

You've still provided no logical reasoning for why Pacquiao should not agree to random testing. You talk about compromising, Mayweather tried that already, you just have a selective memory, but that's a common symptom of all Pac riders and it's okay, I can deal with that.

Seriously, are you an adult? Is there a fight or not? Geez, I really think I'm speaking to a child. You agree to random testing = No cutoff = No Fight! The bolded paragraph above doesn't make a single sense. Of course I keep mentioning "no fight" coz that's the FACT! lol idiot.

[deejd]

Seriously, are you an adult? Is there a fight or not? Geez, I really think I'm speaking to a child. You agree to random testing = No cutoff = No Fight! The bolded paragraph above doesn't make a single sense. Of course I keep mentioning "no fight" coz that's the FACT! lol idiot.

I'm the child, yet you're the one that posts with "lol" and uses implausible terms such as "coz." And if you ask me, it seems a bit immature to play the "I have the final say PERIOD/NO FIGHT" deal that you've tirelessly tried to use throughout this thread.

What is preventing Pacquiao from agreeing to random testing? You still haven't answered, but I've learned to expect ignorance in response from you.

[IMDAZED]

Umm coz u asked me earlier what my solution is for both camps and so i wanted to find a common ground, hence the 3 days? Its called making a deal in terms of the drug issue. Its a simple as- if floyd sticks with 0 days or pac stays with 7 days, then theres no deal, meaning no fight. Surely that's basic logic to you right? And its obvious that you two are sticking with 0 days, which means what? Say it with me...no fight. At least admit that, theres nothing wrong with that if thats how u feel. I really dont see the issue.

Why should there be no deal if Floyd stands behind his one stipulation? It's not as if it's the only one on the table. There's gloves, there was glove size, ring, weight infraction fees. And all of those things were agreed upon, with Pacquiao getting his wish each time. Floyd's stipulation was Olympic-style Drug testing. And for that, he needs to make some sort of compromise? Not to say you are but I'm no Pac d*ckrider therefore I see the absurdity in that logic. It's a test, not an a******. Just agree, like he agreed to everything else, and move on.

[Mayabang]

I'm the child, yet you're the one that posts with "lol" and uses implausible terms such as "coz." And if you ask me, it seems a bit immature to play the "I have the final say PERIOD/NO FIGHT" deal that you've tirelessly tried to use throughout this thread.

What is preventing Pacquiao from agreeing to random testing? You still haven't answered, but I've learned to expect ignorance in response from you.

Why are you asking me about Pac? Is my name Pacquiao? Am I on team Pac?

yes, you're the child based on your lack of comprehension of the issue. Really strange why you're in such denial of the Facts:

FACT: Pacquiao says no to "no cutoff" and Flody says no to "7 days" which is why there is NO FIGHT!

Is that a fact or not? Is the reason why we have no fight is because both teams can't agree on the drug testing days? Yes or No?

Yes or No?

Did Pac agree to 'no cutoff'? Yes or No?
Did Floyd agree to '7 days cutoff'? Yes or No?

Yes or No?

Do I care about Pac? Nope
Do I care about FLoyd? Nope
Do I care about the fight happening? Yup