Roach: `160 might be next, maybe we will go to nine world titles`

[chinoy]

why dont you go to Papi Sulaiman and complain to him....maybe he could give it to your idol....

No, two non-contenders fighting for a vacant title makes it illigitimate.

[IMDAZED]

why dont you go to Papi Sulaiman and complain to him....maybe he could give it to your idol....

I'm complaining to you because it's your money that enables it. But you're too busy lapping it up to feel the tap on your shoulder.

[ThePrince]

Freddie Roach makes comments like this and wonders why people question Pac's cleanliness. Really? Natural welters can barely move to 160 but this guy who has suffered three losses in lower divisions can dominate in the higher ones. 60 fights into his long career? Can you imagine Barrera doing that? Get real. Pacquiao is an ATG there is no denying that. ****, he probably was already one before he moved past 135. But what's going on here right now is beyond obvious.

Yup and that's why guys like Fernando Vargas and Shane Mosley have championships in 7, going on 8 or 9 different weight classes.

I mean, if it's so obvious... why aren't there more fighters doing what Manny is doing? Is Ariza Victor Conte's/BALCO's superior?

[cixthree]

he did..floyd rather stay in jail..

Stop it.... 7 days is not ALL DRUG TEST DEMANDS.. Let's call it waht it is, manny did't want the test, then he offered 30 days (NO)... 24 days (NO).. 14 days was offered (Manny said NO).
Floyd says ok, No cutoffs, now Manny wants 7... Manny walked away at 14, now he wants 7... Pretty simple
But in all realness, 7 days should be where it stops. So after this fight and Floyds case we'll see who balks and why.

[IMDAZED]

Yup and that's why guys like Fernando Vargas and Shane Mosley have championships in 7, going on 8 or 9 different weight classes.

I mean, if it's so obvious... why aren't there more fighters doing what Manny is doing? Is Ariza Victor Conte's/BALCO's superior?

Really? They do? What belts in what weight classes do Vargas and Mosley have SEVEN or EIGHT of? Do you follow boxing at all?

[ThePrince]

Really? They do? What belts in what weight classes do Vargas and Mosley have SEVEN or EIGHT of? Do you follow boxing at all?

Completely over your head. Go back and read what you said, then re-read my response.

[IMDAZED]

@ Margarito staring at his body in the mirror and declaring, "no steroids in this body, my friends. All natural." Unfortunately, that might be his undoing.

[IMDAZED]

Completely over your head. Go back and read what you said, then re-read my response.

Do you think that somehow helps your point? Vargas and Mosley? Really? Or are you just on here trying to look cute?

[S H A R K B O Y]

Really? They do? What belts in what weight classes do Vargas and Mosley have SEVEN or EIGHT of? Do you follow boxing at all?

He was being sarcastic, although I do question Pacquiao and his team for being up to something su****ious as far as Pacquiao's "clean" slate goes..

[ThePrince]

Do you think that somehow helps your point? Vargas and Mosley? Really? Or are you just on here trying to look cute?

Answer the ****ing question. Shane Mosley had a pipeline of PEDS from BALCO which as far as we know was the premiere manufacturer of illegal enhancers. But Shane, or any other boxer in history with the excpetion of MAYBE a handful, hasn't done anything remotely resembling what Pac has accomplished.

You think it's obvious that his success is due to steroids/PEDs. But why is he the ONLY boxer doing it? Did Ariza make his own personal new age drugs in a lab that's superior to every other PED on the Black market now and keeping it a secret between him and Manny (he also trains other fighters like Khan)?

If it's so 'obvious' like you say, then obviously it should be easy to answer these basic questions.