Audley Harrison: "Haye Was Not Undisputed Cruiserweight Champion"

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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #41
    Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
    I think what he's saying is you can't have it both ways. Either Haye was undisputed at CW or he is a legit HW title holder.
    What?????????

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    • Jim Jeffries
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      #42
      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
      What?????????
      Self explanatory.

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      • RimmyDelicious
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        #43
        There's plenty of things to rip Haye about, this isn't one of them though. He won the true, lineal cruiserweight championship and two belts from Mormeck, then unified for a third against Enzo. He left that division as the true champion of the division, Cunningham was nothing more than his top contender.

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        • Dirk Diggler UK
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          #44
          Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
          Self explanatory.
          Not really.

          How have i tried to have it both ways? You may want to read what you wrote again.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
            Not really.

            How have i tried to have it both ways? You may want to read what you wrote again.
            If there was no reason for Haye to fight Cunningham (because he had already beaten Mormeck,) then there is no reason for Wlad to fight Haye (because he has already beaten Chagaev.)

            i.e. if Cunningham's title was "worthless" then so is Haye's.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
              If there was no reason for Haye to fight Cunningham (because he had already beaten Mormeck,) then there is no reason for Wlad to fight Haye (because he has already beaten Chagaev.)

              i.e. if Cunningham's title was "worthless" then so is Haye's.
              Go back and read post 21

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                #47
                C'mon man. Haye was on his way out of Cruiserweight after the won the European title. The IBF title against Cunningham would have been an afterthought; The Enzo fight, for the bigger title against another brit, was the one to make. Haye was a heavyweight fighting cruiserweights, I remember him standing in front of Enzo and looking at he size difference between the two when they touched gloves and thinking "Ah.... Enzo's ****ed"

                Should he have gone after the IBO belt as well? Who even had the IBO? Johnathan Banks?

                I can understand calling Haye out about his fights at heavyweight (even though I think in 5 fights in the division its competition has been okay) but at cruiserweight I think he did his thing pretty well. Do you really think Cunningham would be able to get by Haye after seeing Tomasz drop him the way he did?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                  Go back and read post 21
                  Then why are you arguing with me?

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                  • Dirk Diggler UK
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
                    Then why are you arguing with me?
                    Im not dip*****. You tried takin a shot at me about "having it both ways" when you hadnt read the whole thread.

                    Run along.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      What the *** does that have to do with anything? I never dispusted Wlad should have the WBA belt.

                      Seriously sometimes you guys sound like a bunch of crybabies
                      It has to do with you saying the IBF title should have been Haye's, if that's the case then Wlad should have the WBA title and Haye would have been forced to fight one of the brothers if he wanted a trinket, unfortunately that was not the case.

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