How unethical is the plaster case for hardcore boxing fans.......

[Mayas]

For me Im in between he did a cardinal sin in my books but then I again I know he wont do it again because he is going to get checked in every fight he is in... and sometimes everybody needs a second chance..........


What do you guys think???????

Margarito did the right thing when he tried to "load his gloves" with Plaster inserts, cause Mosley was "juiced up" with EPO Steroids/Hormones.

FAIR PLAY.

[Bushbaby]

I like almost all the top fighters at 154.With this revelation,there is no way that Margarito should be the guy fighting boxing's cashcow & pfp champ at the moment!!This was in house cherrypicking at it's finest & the fighters that have been at 154 putting in work are left on the outside looking in in their own weight class,that **** is just wrong,period!!

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Cmon now all fighters know what is being put on thier hands during their wrapping. Hes a cheater plain and simple. If you think he didnt know what was going on your a knownothing coupled with ignorance.

How the *** would you know? Have you boxed professionally before? Have you had your hands wrapped and detected a foreign substance before?

Look let me go over a couple of facts instead of a bunch of baseless assumptions that you are making.


1. CSAC inspectors who were actually present during the whole hand wrap incident testified that the only one who was co-operative with the inspectors was Margarito himself. And once the loaded wraps were discovered CSAC inspectors also testified that they did in fact tell Margarito and I quote "dont worry we know it's not your fault". CSAC inspectors also testified that Margarito only had the wraps on for a few moments before ****m came in telling his camp that they needed to re wrap.

2. Javier Capatillo accepted full responsiability for the incident unlike Panama Lewis who left his fighter out to dry.

3. Every single one of the CSAC testified that they all believed Tony's story and they all felt that he was being truthful when he said he didn't know what was in his gloves.

Now if you can debunk all those facts that I presented to you please go ahead but if you are just gonna troll then Im just gonna ignore you as a knownothing moron.

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And then that Rashad Halloway story was the cherry on top.........

Halloway is also currently employed by who again?

[pistol whip]

I like almost all the top fighters at 154.With this revelation,there is no way that Margarito should be the guy fighting boxing's cashcow & pfp champ at the moment!!This was in house cherrypicking at it's finest & the fighters that have been at 154 putting in work are left on the outside looking in in their own weight class,that **** is just wrong,period!!

How many of those fighters on the outside looking in at 154 are 3 time world titlists?

[Bushbaby]

How many of those fighters on the outside looking in at 154 are 3 time world titlists?

How many have been caught red handed trying to cheat??

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How many have been caught red handed trying to cheat??

The thing is it wasn't red handed especially when you have the comissioners of the CSAC testifying in open court that the believe Tony's story. in fact I listed some very important facts that I found in an earlier post that you might want to take a look at in this thread.


And what does that have to do with anything? Unless you are just gonna regurgitate the same tired conspiricy theories that don't have one shred of evidence to back them up.


Also the CSAC never said that he could never fight for a title again now did they. I know it makes you feel better when you get all self rightious but thats not how the real world works my friend.

[2Fast]

Come on dude from EL paso you know we are smarter than that.


I personally don't think margarito knew what was in his gloves but thats just me and yes he deserves a second chance!

So you agree that he probably had it in the Cotto fight and in all of his previous fights. Cause he didn't know right. So him saying he didn't had it in the cotto fight means ****

[Nuurzhaelan]

How the *** would you know? Have you boxed professionally before? Have you had your hands wrapped and detected a foreign substance before?

Look let me go over a couple of facts instead of a bunch of baseless assumptions that you are making.


1. CSAC inspectors who were actually present during the whole hand wrap incident testified that the only one who was co-operative with the inspectors was Margarito himself. And once the loaded wraps were discovered CSAC inspectors also testified that they did in fact tell Margarito and I quote "dont worry we know it's not your fault". CSAC inspectors also testified that Margarito only had the wraps on for a few moments before ****m came in telling his camp that they needed to re wrap.

2. Javier Capatillo accepted full responsiability for the incident unlike Panama Lewis who left his fighter out to dry.

3. Every single one of the CSAC testified that they all believed Tony's story and they all felt that he was being truthful when he said he didn't know what was in his gloves.

Now if you can debunk all those facts that I presented to you please go ahead but if you are just gonna troll then Im just gonna ignore you as a knownothing moron.

I cannot debunk them, but I can argue the points.

1. Only margarito was cooperative. That's called damage control. Anyone can play dumb and lie when the heat is on. He's a smooth operator, a slickster...whatever euphemism you wish to use. I cannot prove it, but that's what I think he did.

2. Perhaps it was a 'hear no evil, see no evil' scenario. Who knows? Capetillo took responsibility...bully for him. I do not think that mitigates margarito's negligence (if that's all he is guilty of).

3. Ever heard of backroom deals? It's fair to take them at their word. It's also fair for me and others to suspect something else was going on. Maybe they did believe him...but they're also representative of the same group of idiots that could not find the hardened pads in the first place. I think the CSAC are staffed with incompetents and bureauc**** who have no guile or knowledge of the sport. You could argue that I do not, and you would be correct...but the difference is that I am not presiding and ruling over the affairs of the sport in my state.

I suspect that the CSAC did not wish to anger the enormous Latino population given margarito's heritage and maybe Uncle Bob had something to do with the outcome. They took a measured course with flaccid spines to blunt the outcry they feared would befall them should they rule harshly against margarito.

The sport of Boxing is corrupt, and it is as much about politics and money as it pretends to be about boxing. What I opined will be met with derision, but cool off and reread it. Change the players if you like and then see how it might hold water.

[Bushbaby]

The thing is it wasn't red handed especially when you have the comissioners of the CSAC testifying in open court that the believe Tony's story. in fact I listed some very important facts that I found in an earlier post that you might want to take a look at in this thread.


And what does that have to do with anything? Unless you are just gonna regurgitate the same tired conspiricy theories that don't have one shred of evidence to back them up.


Also the CSAC never said that he could never fight for a title again now did they. I know it makes you feel better when you get all self rightious but thats not how the real world works my friend.

It has a whole lot to do with being a boxer,if Ur cheating that is,I won't get into conspiracy theories or anything like that!!But Margarito isn't more deserving of fighting for a super welterweight title than the Punisher,or Martinez,or Angulo or even Cotto or any other top 154 fighter!!None have came of a year long suspention for whatever U wanna call the Margarito situation!!U have ur opinion & I have mine!!There are far more deserving fighters than Margarito,just ask California!!