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  • WarriorSoul
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    #171
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    Why would it have mattered?
    Says the guy that's all over Floyd's nuts on every thread.

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    • IMDAZED
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      #172
      Originally posted by WarriorSoul
      Says the guy that's all over Floyd's nuts on every thread.
      So why would it have mattered again?

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      • hitking
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        #173
        Originally posted by WarriorSoul
        You're right about one thing, Mayweather is consistent when it comes to taking vacations. The second negotiations never happened because Floyd wanted to spend more time with his family right?
        In Mayweather's comeback, he's only been fighting once a year. He said that he's taking a year off, then coming back and, "cooking the midget." So I don't see how that translates into him ducking someone. He's only been fighting once a year. He fought this year, and he's done. Its nothing different from what he's been doingt he last couple years.

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        • trainhard_187
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          #174
          Originally posted by hitking
          You're missing the bigger issue buddy. And that is, WHY IS MANNY PACQUAIO GOING TO THE EXTENT HE IS TO AVOID A STRICT DRUG TESTING POLICY. Let's say Mayweather is scared, a coward, and whatever else and is using the USADA testing to try and avoid the fight. What does that have to do with Pacquaio and his team sticking to their guns that they need a window of time where Pac will be immune to testing for illegal drugs? That's all I'm looking at. Plus, if Team Pacquaio REALLY believed that Mayweather was scared, a coward, ducking Pac, and whatever else is beign said. Why not just come out and say, we agree to the full USADA testing. Have Pac put his name on a contract agreeing to the testing. And then let Mayweather make a total ass of himself and back out after he recieved what he's asked for?
          When the boxing commission or the NSAC incorporates a more strict drug testing policy and Pac says wait hold on I need a cut off date then that should raise some red flags.

          But when Floyd who is notorious for finding a way not to fight a fighter request them then Pac has a to say I dont need to take any test that you request, your not the commission...

          that simple..

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          • trainhard_187
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            #175
            Originally posted by hitking
            In Mayweather's comeback, he's only been fighting once a year. He said that he's taking a year off, then coming back and, "cooking the midget." So I don't see how that translates into him ducking someone. He's only been fighting once a year. He fought this year, and he's done. Its nothing different from what he's been doingt he last couple years.
            And if Floyd doesnt fight Pac in 2011 which HE WONT.. Then hopefully these Flotards will finally see the truth that

            FLOYD WAS NEVER INTERESTED...

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            • WESS
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              #176
              Originally posted by trainhard_187
              You got that all wrong. DLH called out Pac.. and Pac did fight Cotto unlike Floyd. 145-146-147.. It wouldnt of mattered, Pac would of slaughtered Cotto anyways..
              No doubt. Just remember that Roach made it very clear that Hoya wouldn't be a threat and that he was shot. Also remember that fight was about money not Pac fighting a real champion or threat as Roach (former trainer of Hoya's) said over and over.

              Anyway the overall point was that he fought a shot fighter and wanted no part of "too good" Mosley and didn't want to fight Cotto at the full WW limit like he did Hoya. How does that look? He fights the "shot" and drained guy at 147 but makes the champ come in at a weight he chooses?

              But you are right, he WOULD HAVE beaten Cotto at 147 or any weight IMO especially after being DESTROYED by Margarito although the Hoya that Mayweather fought, Pac would have been beaten by. Actually any Hoya before 2006-07 would beat Pac IMO especially at 154.

              But Pac didn't fight Hoya then and he didn't fight Cotto at the WW limit. People can call Mayweather a "coward" yet Pac has proven to be more of a coward than Mayweather has using the logic or LACK of that some people have on here.

              The real question is who has Pac beaten lately? Who's that last REAL threat Pac fought that didn't have a "catch" to it? Why do we hold such low standards for pac? I like Pac just as much as anyone else does but I hold that same standard for pac as I do Mayweather. Pac again is fighting a bum when there are so many OTHER options.

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              • hitking
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                #177
                Originally posted by trainhard_187
                When the boxing commission or the NSAC incorporates a more strict drug testing policy and Pac says wait hold on I need a cut off date then that should raise some red flags.

                But when Floyd who is notorious for finding a way not to fight a fighter request them then Pac has a to say I dont need to take any test that you request, your not the commission...

                that simple..
                Well, IMO Mayweather has fought everyone he was supposed to fight his entire career. But, that's a whole other debate that I don't want to get into.

                As for team Pacquaio and his backers hiding behind the NSAC when it comes to this issue, that's very lame. I mean seriously, the king of catchweights is the last person that needs to be saying he'll only do what the commission requires. I don't think the commission requires a guy to fight at a weight he hadn't made in a decade. I don't think the commission requires a welterweight titlist to defend his belt at 145. I don't think there's a commission rule that jr middleweight title fights be fought at 150. So let's not act as if Pac hasn't requested, and then been granted his share of special contract stipulations in his day.

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                • Sugar Q
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                  #178
                  Originally posted by hitking
                  You're missing the bigger issue buddy. And that is, WHY IS MANNY PACQUAIO GOING TO THE EXTENT HE IS TO AVOID A STRICT DRUG TESTING POLICY. Let's say Mayweather is scared, a coward, and whatever else and is using the USADA testing to try and avoid the fight. What does that have to do with Pacquaio and his team sticking to their guns that they need a window of time where Pac will be immune to testing for illegal drugs? That's all I'm looking at. Plus, if Team Pacquaio REALLY believed that Mayweather was scared, a coward, ducking Pac, and whatever else is beign said. Why not just come out and say, we agree to the full USADA testing. Have Pac put his name on a contract agreeing to the testing. And then let Mayweather make a total ass of himself and back out after he recieved what he's asked for?

                  That's all I've been asking all along. There is no excuse for Pac not submitting to full OST. If Floyd is a coward call his bluff!!! Pac won't do it because he doesn't really want the fight.

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                  • | THE KING |
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                    #179
                    Originally posted by Lorily
                    The bolded above is what I agree with most...

                    What I don't understand is, for those who seem to want to just argue the issue - "Random blood test all the way up to the fight or it's B.S." For those who really believe that 7 day cutoff is NOT acceptable, can you please tell me - In order to believe that Manny could still cheat with a 7 day cutoff, you have to believe that he refrains from taking anything illegal for his entire camp (because they are still random testing throughout camp), until he is tested 7 days before the fight. Then (according to some beliefs) he would immediatly start using this wonder PED, some kind of PED that miraculously gives him benefits within hours of using it - and then still have to find a way to clear it back out of his system for a blood test immediatly following the fight... all in 7 DAYS. Even then, if you do actually believe that scenario, what kind of benefit could he possibly get taking a PED 1-3 days? Some people actually believe that Manny has to agree to Floyds demand for a 0 day cutoff or he's a cheat. You have to wonder if these people really believe that or if they're arguing just for the sake of arguing. If Floyd himself seems to agree that blood testing is NO LONGER AN ISSUE (how would he know that Pac agreed to blood testing, whether it be 7 days or 0 if "no second negotiations took place"???) then why can't his own fans see that 7 days or 0 days is acceptable?

                    WHAT POSSIBLE BENEFIT COULD PAC GET TAKING SOME KIND OF PED WITHIN 7 DAYS AND STILL CLEAR IT OUT OF HIS SYSTEM ENOUGH TO PASS A BLOOD TEST RIGHT AFTER THE FIGHT?

                    This is a genuine question for people that believe that a cutoff of 7 days is not good enough...
                    On point! As usual...

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                    • | THE KING |
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                      #180
                      Originally posted by Sugar Q
                      According to experts 7 days is still enough time to benefit from juicing. The thing is, if it's good enough for teens all over the world why not for a professional world class athlete? Why not eliminate all possibilities of cheating and why stand against that? Manny get's fighters to bend the rules in his favor all the time so why not submit to testing for the good of all sports?
                      Reeeaalllyyy?

                      You know the best time to use these PED substances? During off time or VACATION..

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