Pacquiao: "I am the GREATEST fighter that ever lived" (from 60 Minutes)

[JmH Reborn]

You guys are so fickle, it was so tongue and cheek that they knew it was a joke.

The main differences are that Pac does not gloat all over the interwebz claiming his greatness unlike others. He's determined to prove it

[check hook]

Some names off the top that are > on ATG list than FMJ and MP.


- Duran
- Hearns
- SRL
- SRR
- Sweet Pea
- Joe Louis


Six right there that are all greater!!!!!!!!!

I'll expand on one name:


DURAN: 103-16-0

- Lightweight kingpin for almost a decade
- Beat SRL in his prime, moving up in weight.
- Trilogy with the incredibly underrated Esteban De Jesus who holds a victory over Duran.
- Slapped Davey Moore around like a cheap whore @ JMW when he was 32 years old.
- Very close fight with Hagler not long after slapping Moore. He told MH after the fight "You're not so marvelous"
- Beat Iran Barkley @ MW. Yes beat him at 160. For those who don't know Barkley was a HUUGEE MW. Watch the James Toney vs Barkley fight and lok at the size difference!!! Toney still credits Barkley as one of the hardest hitters he fought....stating he hurt me everytime he hit me!

Others:

- Wilfred Benitez
- Hearns
- Comacho


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feel free to add some names guys.......


Now that's not to say Pac or Floyd couldn't beat Duran H2H, but they need to do more to get to his level of greatness. Floyd would need to take Pac out and then maybe Williams and another top fighter. Ditto Pac who would need to take Floyd out, then some more top names.

[check hook]

Actually no one has a claim to the GOAT status as every era is different and so much of that is subjective.

I have this same convo when it comes to b-ball, rap, football...you name it.

Who knows how any of these elite fighters would have faired in other eras. All we can do is speculate and given the fact that boxing is about as unpredictable of a sport as any.....saying someone is the GOAT boxer is flat out ridiculous.

I agree. For example i rate Duran > Ali. Not many lists do that. I do this because i feel he lost all three to Norton and also lost to Young, which puts Duran above him.

However, even being SUBJECTIVE and taking personal bias' into account i think it's ridiculous to place FMJ or MP as GOAT at this particular time.

[grayfist]

I voted no. I thought it's a case of Manny playing. Tongue in cheek, it is to me. Most Cebuano-speaking Filipinos have that type of sense of humor. Visiting Cebu and places in Mindanao then listening to local radio and TV stations can easily give that impression. That's if one hasn't already gotten that impression from personal contacts with local folks.

[DARKSEID]

are you guys seriously gonna blow this up out of proportion?

he's not going around claiming he's the best(he proves it instead) he was just asked a question, and he jokingly answered "himself".

[nelsoncm]

Pacs a damn *******.

Haha damn right

But I never thought this "ME" would get the fans all started up. Manny said it in jest, yet everyone took it seriously

[joelab75]

I dont think Manny cares who's the greatest of all time. I dont think he would lose any sleep thinking he is not the best. Everytime he win he gives credit to his opponents. he give credit to his Maker for winning a fight. not bragging abt how good he has become. Floyd in the other hand would tell to the world he was the best and discredit those guys who was already proven and fought the best in their time.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Haha damn right

But I never thought this "ME" would get the fans all started up. Manny said it in jest, yet everyone took it seriously

that's because Floids Virus infected *****s are scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to find any little thing they can say bad about pac.

Its obvious there is a language barrier with pac & american questions.

[Dave Rado]

I voted no. I thought it's a case of Manny playing. Tongue in cheek, it is to me. Most Cebuano-speaking Filipinos have that type of sense of humor. Visiting Cebu and places in Mindanao then listening to local radio and TV stations can easily give that impression. That's if one hasn't already gotten that impression from personal contacts with local folks.

I think it's very likely that it was meant as a joke. And lol at the *******s and *****s both assuming that it was definitely meant to be taken literally. It's not even as if he said he was greater than any specific fighter from the past. And unlike Floyd, and unlike some of the *******s in this thread, he has never tried to downplay the achievements of past greats.

And unlike Floyd, I have seen no evidence that Pac takes very much interest in boxing history, so he probably couldn't have given a straight answer to the question he was asked in any case.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Haha damn right

But I never thought this "ME" would get the fans all started up. Manny said it in jest, yet everyone took it seriously

this.

QFT.