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EUROPEAN fighters good at ducking fights or do we blame their promoters?

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  • #11
    Originally posted by TheEvilSaint
    i think the most notorious ducker was lennox lewis.
    i dont believe that for a second. there was other heavy things involved .

    even when he won fights he was put down over and over again.

    he lost his heart for boxing and still even out of shape beat the best.

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    • #12
      This is a loaded question. I think most dont care for fighting overseas. Why travel when you can just fight at home? Though i will agree that north america has and attracts more talented fighters, this is where the money is at. But i do believe that a champion cant be told where to fight, but he has to fight the best. Like how Lacy wants to fight calzague. Hatton is a special situation, cause his people are acting like bizatches.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Famoso Matador
        This is a loaded question. I think most dont care for fighting overseas. Why travel when you can just fight at home? Though i will agree that north america has and attracts more talented fighters, this is where the money is at. But i do believe that a champion cant be told where to fight, but he has to fight the best. Like how Lacy wants to fight calzague. Hatton is a special situation, cause his people are acting like bizatches.
        I don't agree that America is where the money is at... A lot of British fighters would have to take a big pay cut to fight in America.

        Take Ricky Hatton for example... He can sell 22,000 seats at £75.00 a go, and still arrange for the fight to be on @2:00a.m. so as to take the American tv money. Most fights in America struggle to fill 7,000 seats $30.00 per seat.

        Ricky Would be taking a big pay cut to fight in America.... But I still reckon he's gonna do it.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by martinwbc
          I don't agree that America is where the money is at... A lot of British fighters would have to take a big pay cut to fight in America.

          Take Ricky Hatton for example... He can sell 22,000 seats at £75.00 a go, and still arrange for the fight to be on @2:00a.m. so as to take the American tv money. Most fights in America struggle to fill 7,000 seats $30.00 per seat.

          Ricky Would be taking a big pay cut to fight in America.... But I still reckon he's gonna do it.
          Most money comes from PPV, not how many tickets you sell.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Parodius
            Most money comes from PPV, not how many tickets you sell.
            Oh yeah, I aware of that... It just there are ways of working around that - For example, Ricky's last fight was on at 2:00a.m. local time so he would be prime time for American tv.

            Winning the best of both Worlds.

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            • #16
              The only reason that i say that Hatton is a special situation is because his people will not give KT a rematch.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by martinwbc
                I don't agree that America is where the money is at... A lot of British fighters would have to take a big pay cut to fight in America.

                Take Ricky Hatton for example... He can sell 22,000 seats at £75.00 a go, and still arrange for the fight to be on @2:00a.m. so as to take the American tv money. Most fights in America struggle to fill 7,000 seats $30.00 per seat.

                Ricky Would be taking a big pay cut to fight in America.... But I still reckon he's gonna do it.
                youre full of ****. american ppv,hbo or showtime is big bucks.sky is childsplay. seats at an arena is **** dollarwise.

                the only paycut they get is because of there padded stats fighting over seas.
                Last edited by STEELHEAD; 08-15-2005, 04:15 AM.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by steelhead
                  youre full of ****. american ppv,hbo or showtime is big bucks.sky is childsplay. seats at an arena is **** dollarwise.

                  the only paycut they get is because of there padded stats fighting over seas.
                  What is wrong with people on this website?... Can you not have a discussion about boxing without diving in feet first and saying, "YOU'RE FULL OF ****!" ????????

                  Don't underestimate how much revenue is generated through ticket sales.

                  22,000 seats at £75.00 per ticket, (that's approx $140.00 U.S.).

                  Think about PPV sales at $20.00 - That's the equivilent of 154,000 sales before we've even talked about TV figures yet.

                  And I did say that the fight is held @2:00a.m. local time so as to accomidate the U.S. prime TV slot.

                  It makes sense to me... It's business.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by martinwbc
                    I don't agree that America is where the money is at... A lot of British fighters would have to take a big pay cut to fight in America.

                    Take Ricky Hatton for example... He can sell 22,000 seats at £75.00 a go, and still arrange for the fight to be on @2:00a.m. so as to take the American tv money. Most fights in America struggle to fill 7,000 seats $30.00 per seat.

                    Ricky Would be taking a big pay cut to fight in America.... But I still reckon he's gonna do it.

                    In europe their favorite sports are Futbol aka soccer and Boxing That is why he can sell out that 22 thousand stadium but sept 10 pacquiao and morales are gonna sell out the staples center in los angeles which will seat 20 thousand that is much more impressive I believe since they both are not from USA and they can sell out a staduim that aint their home town.
                    More people follow boxing their you would probally think it make sense they wouldnt duck figthers but they do.

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                    • #20
                      If Ricky mattered over here, he'd make more money here than there.

                      Thats the truth. The ugly truth.

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