May vs Pac negotiations. Insights from King and Dibella.

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    May vs Pac negotiations. Insights from King and Dibella.

    Read an interesting article by Ron Borges on this subject. Thought i would share some of the quotes from said article:


    "Floyd is definitely losing the PR battle. Bob Arum is so much smarter than these other guys who are involved. He's magnificent man.....these guys aren't smart enough to understand the brilliance of how Arum does business. He already got Margarito signed, sealed and delivered as Pac's next opponent. He's making more money for himself with less risk to his fighter....it's brilliant" - DON KING


    Financially Arum has more interest in making Cotto or MArgo vs Pac. He get's some of both. He get's none of Floyd.


    King also mentions his lobster lunch meeting with Floyd. Floyd asked King "how he would make the fight." King told him ".....you want to get an education they can't give you at Harvard Business School, you got to pay tuition"


    Some real pearls of wisdom from Lou DiBella:


    "There are alot of factors why this hasn't gotten done.....there's no commissioner or administrative body overseeing the sport so drug testing becomes a negotiation issue rather than an industry issue"


    "Maybe Manny is clean, but when you refuse to agree to what the experts say is meaningful testing it raises doubts. I don't know what Mayweather really thinks, but my guess is he believes Manny is dirty because he won't agree to full testing. Because there is no state regulations or blood testing for HGH"

    " There's also economic problems. Only so big a number can be done. Even if there's two million PPV buys, when you split it 50-50 it's a problem. Floyd made the lion's share of the money whe he fought Mosley. That's not the case against Pacquaio. If you're getting 80% of 1.4 million PPV buys, 50% of 2.2 million buys is not all that much more"


    "Arum can make more money from a Pacquaio v MArgarito fight where he has both sides. His profit margin may be better long term if Manny never fights Floyd"

    "Then you add in the hate factor. Al HAymon was part of Mayweather getting away from Arum in the first place. You think Arum wants to deal with Al Haymon, who can be a difficult businessman to deal with? You think Haymon wants to do a deal with Arum? No, they want to WIN the deal, which makes it hard to make the deal"


    "It's not out of the question this fight never happens....when neither guys economic survival is dependent on this fight, there's less pressure to make it than people think"

    "People say it's irrational not to make this fight. So? This sport is characterised by irrationality. You ever see Lennox Lewis fight Rid**** Bowe? Why is this any different?"
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    eff chickenweather

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    • Reloaded
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      These type of threads are like a PEDS test to *******s , best avoided at all costs lol .
      Last edited by Reloaded; 11-05-2010, 10:03 PM.

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        Originally posted by Reloaded
        These type of threads are like a PEDS test to *******s , best avoided at all costs lol .
        Lol, why would we need to avoid this thread?

        It's just a justification of Mayweathers ***** reasons for not fighting.

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          Originally posted by Reloaded
          These type of threads are like a PEDS test to *******s , best avoided at all costs lol .
          Fight won't happen, so what? We move on, and *******s need to leave Floyd alone! I for one am looking forward to Floyd's next fight. Hope it would be the winner of Williams and Martinez. These guys are willing to bow down to all of Lil' Floyd's demands. I see no reason why this fight can't happen.

          Really don't know why these *****s can't remove themselves from Pac's shadows. If you want Pac for Floyd, shove that OST crap up your a**es. Otherwise, shift your focus on Williams and Martinez. Floyd vs one of these guys would certainly do well in PPV sales.

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            Originally posted by Pudgemeister
            Lol, why would we need to avoid this thread?

            It's just a justification of Mayweathers ***** reasons for not fighting.
            Because it states from a prominate man the reason why Pacs doubters think he is suspect , and this is the reason why Floyd is so strong about random with NO cutt off .

            Arum is smart but he should not of tried to get out of fighting Floyd by ***ing with PEDS testing , its a world wide cause out there that lots of people believe in , its extremely important athletes are clean , and Manny snubbed his nose at it and then fights a cheat ,, its morally wrong ,

            Lou DiBella
            "Maybe Manny is clean, but when you refuse to agree to what the experts say is meaningful testing it raises doubts. I don't know what Mayweather really thinks, but my guess is he believes Manny is dirty because he won't agree to full testing. Because there is no state regulations or blood testing for HGH

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              Originally posted by Reloaded
              Because it states from a prominate man the reason why Pacs doubters think he is suspect , and this is the reason why Floyd is so strong about random with NO cutt off .

              Arum is smart but he should not of tried to get out of fighting Floyd by ***ing with PEDS testing , its a world wide cause out there that lots of people believe in , its extremely important athletes are clean , and Manny snubbed his nose at it and then fights a cheat ,, its morally wrong ,

              Lou DiBella
              "Maybe Manny is clean, but when you refuse to agree to what the experts say is meaningful testing it raises doubts. I don't know what Mayweather really thinks, but my guess is he believes Manny is dirty because he won't agree to full testing. Because there is no state regulations or blood testing for HGH
              And this is new information how? I'm a *******, and I think Pac acted like a ****** in reaction to the drug tests. He should have just told that scared ***** to **** off to begin with.

              Random testing up to 7 days, and right after the weigh in. What is wrong with that?

              There is absolutely no physical evidence (no weird weight histories, no pictures, nothing) to substantiate any claims.

              "Daddy, look what he did to Cotto? He must be on drugs" is the extent of Mayweather pathetic argument.

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                Originally posted by Pudgemeister
                And this is new information how? I'm a *******, and I think Pac acted like a ****** in reaction to the drug tests. He should have just told that scared ***** to **** off to begin with.

                Random testing up to 7 days, and right after the weigh in. What is wrong with that?

                There is absolutely no physical evidence (no weird weight histories, no pictures, nothing) to substantiate any claims.

                "Daddy, look what he did to Cotto? He must be on drugs" is the extent of Mayweather pathetic argument.
                You were answered your question by DiBella , your 7 days is obviously not meaningful enough to the experts ,,,, you can have an opinion but its not valid over that of the experts , the experts dont tell Manny and Arum how to box , and yet you rate their opinion higher concerning drugs ,,, what was I saying before about thinking like a kid !

                Lou DiBella
                when you refuse to agree to what the experts say is meaningful testing it raises doubts
                Last edited by Reloaded; 11-05-2010, 10:34 PM.

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                  Floyd asks for tests that aren't required by anyone, anywhere. Pac tries to accomondate and Mayweather still complains. Mayweather avoids the fight for personal reasons so Pac fights someone else/ thread/ story.

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                    Originally posted by mathed
                    Floyd asks for tests that aren't required by anyone, anywhere. Pac tries to accomondate and Mayweather still complains. Mayweather avoids the fight for personal reasons so Pac fights someone else/ thread/ story.
                    please explain..............

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