Comments Thread For: Juanma-Caballero Explodes: Brawl Erupts After Weigh-In

[Pelencho]

The only 2 fighters he has been "vocal about" has been Juanma and Gamboa and you want to come say here it's not for the payday. HAHA!!!!
I don't blame him for wanting the Payday but don't be so naive.


I probably would be naive (or ******) and beleive you, that nothing was planned by Caba yesterday but still you want to ignore the fact that the fuel of this fire was already set time ago when Caballero talked all the trash and cursing he did, insulting a guy that has never done anything to him and who he doesn't know.
Although i agree that this has been part of boxing for years what happened to Caballero yesterday, he help build up himself with his actions in the past. Don't just come here and talk about how "Saint" was Caballero yesterday, Look at the whole scenario and past actions and then you will have a better perspective, but then again, as you say, more than a fan you are his Buddy and will never be able to understand this under your biased opinion

you missed the point of my post. of course like anyone he wants a payday. but his hatred of juanma goes beyond that. he doesnt want juanma, john, or any of those other guys on the same level. what i am saying is he is aware of the payday that would come from it, but this is not a manufactured hatred to try to get a payday

and caballero surely is not a saint. i never said that. i merely said he did not go there trying to make a scene. and had the little midget guy had not run down and started trying to be a badass, we wouldnt even be talking about this. i know pelenchin and i can tell you he went there intending to do nothing. he sees juanma and gets pissed. so he starts making gestures. that is it. childish? perhaps. but that is where he stopped. it elevated when juanma's people came at him. and what are his past actions? making a couple of videos? so what. he made some gestures yesterday. so what? it was juanma's childish fans that elevated it and tried to fight when juanma so clearly doesnt want to

[prsi]

and you still misread. pelenchin was there with jeff mayweather and his trainer. that is it. also, he merely made 2 gestures. hardly a lot compared to what has done in the past. juanma's people carried it to the next level

as for the money, it is really ****** to argue. you can say what bob arum said or you think pelenchin said, and i can do the same. nobody is ever going to win that arguement.

You keep on saying just 2 gestures but gestures can say a lot of words. By the way 2 reporters (not buddies like you) have already post on this website that there were words exchanged by both and knowing the words that Caba has used in the past against Juanma, I guess it was nothing good.
So who should I believe a Buddy of Caba and his "Saint" actions yesterday or this 2 american reporters saying that there were more the gestures??
That an easy one!!!

On the Money issue, yeah let's agree to disagee!!!!

[Ray*]

Caba should have done this **** after the fight, I think its also disrespectful to Rafa who might not win the fight but at least caba should have done it after Rafa is out of the picture.

[mannypr201]

You just don't attack somebody without provocation.

You are mental, mate. Caballero made certain gestures (hand gestures to Juanma to get the fight signed) and you think that alone justifies an attack?




The youtube videos were on point. Juan Maricon avoided Caba for years at Super Bantam weight. It's quite clear to everyone, except delusional PR fanboys, who indeed wants this fight more.

Caballero has done his bit but Juanma has done nothing to make it happen.

listen if you make threats.... be ready for a fight caballero is one of those p^ssies that starts **** and when it gets real he calls the cops... he got what he asked for he was making threats and disrespecting the man... caballero put out all those negative disgusting unprofessional disrespectful videos on youtube right.... caba said he was gonna smack him next time he saw juanma right... ok so he saw juanma his boys were aware of the threats made by caba, caba acted up and got it put on him end of story...

we ricans socio, aqui somos barones, aqui se RESPETA OH SE TE ESPETA PUNETA...

[Pelencho]

You keep on saying just 2 gestures but gestures can say a lot of words. By the way 2 reporters (not buddies like you) have already post on this website that there were words exchanged by both and knowing the words that Caba has used in the past against Juanma, I guess it was nothing good.
So who should I believe a Buddy of Caba and his "Saint" actions yesterday or this 2 american reporters saying that there were more the gestures??
That an easy one!!!

On the Money issue, yeah let's agree to disagee!!!!

um, i am american too. and these same reporters also said the big guy punched caballero in the face. that never happened. and you dont have to believe me. i posted the words of caballero and jeff mayweather on his website. i will take their word for it. it has also been reported that pelenchin was busted up. didnt happen. it has also been reported he was pushed down twice. didnt happen. it was also reported that he said they were lucky he didnt have his panama crew with him. didnt happen. believe who you want. but it sounds like both pelenchin and jeff mayweather have pretty similar stories.

[Cafe]

um, i am american too. and these same reporters also said the big guy punched caballero in the face. that never happened. and you dont have to believe me. i posted the words of caballero and jeff mayweather on his website. i will take their word for it. it has also been reported that pelenchin was busted up. didnt happen. it has also been reported he was pushed down twice. didnt happen. it was also reported that he said they were lucky he didnt have his panama crew with him. didnt happen. believe who you want. but it sounds like both pelenchin and jeff mayweather have pretty similar stories.

Thats what happens, when you call somebody names and try to be Tupac

you get pwned

[Pelencho]

listen if you make threats.... be ready for a fight caballero is one of those p^ssies that starts **** and when it gets real he calls the cops... he got what he asked for he was making threats and disrespecting the man... caballero put out all those negative disgusting unprofessional disrespectful videos on youtube right.... caba said he was gonna smack him next time he saw juanma right... ok so he saw juanma his boys were aware of the threats made by caba, caba acted up and got it put on him end of story...

we ricans socio, aqui somos barones, aqui se RESPETA OH SE TE ESPETA PUNETA...

what the hell are you talking about? when did he call the cops? midget took a swing at him and before pelenchin retaliates JUANMAS GUYS split them up. pelenchin never said he was going to smack juanma. he told juanma to be a man like other great pr fighters and fight him. please show me where he said he was going to slap him. and how exactly did he get it put on him? some little dude taking a cheap shot at the back of his head? i swear you juanma nuthuggers are so delusional. not a single thing in that post was even close to true.

[millcitymauler]

This is all academic cuz Rafa is gonna is gonna spoil Juanma's party tonight, big time.

[mannypr201]

yes, i have watched the videos. and you need to watch them again. he didnt say anything about smacking him in the face when he sees him. he told him to put on his pants and be a man. and how does it make JUANMA a man when his people go after Pelenchin? that is like if some boy in school wants to beat you up and your sister jumps in and fights for you. it doesnt make you a man, it makes you a *****.

and he had every intention of defending himself, so dont act like he got his ass kicked and was crying afterwards. trust me, he is still gonna be pissed next week and i sure as hell wouldnt want to be in litzau's shoes

you acting like juanma told his boy to punch him... listen he talked smack and yes he did say he was gonna csmakc juanma i saw the video were he called juanma a liar and said next time he saw him he was gonna slap him i dont need to go back and watch ****... so he was starting **** for over a year and when it gets real he says "oh i didnt even come here to start trouble they hit me waaaaaa, waaaaaaa, waaaaaa" he in his 30's making videos like a 18 year old female rapper...

[Pelencho]

listen if you make threats.... be ready for a fight caballero is one of those p^ssies that starts **** and when it gets real he calls the cops... he got what he asked for he was making threats and disrespecting the man... caballero put out all those negative disgusting unprofessional disrespectful videos on youtube right.... caba said he was gonna smack him next time he saw juanma right... ok so he saw juanma his boys were aware of the threats made by caba, caba acted up and got it put on him end of story...

we ricans socio, aqui somos barones, aqui se RESPETA OH SE TE ESPETA PUNETA...

here are the videos. where are the threats to slap him?

http://www.celestinocaballero.com/apps/videos/videos/show/8699589-caballero-speaks-to-juan-manuel-lopez-part-2-

http://www.celestinocaballero.com/apps/videos/videos/show/8699579-caballero-speaks-to-juan-manuel-lopez-part-1-