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  • jrosales13
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    #51
    Originally posted by The Gambler1981
    Lennox in the minds of many is still a king, now Wlad is considered the current king.

    If Lennox comes back and Wlad is like nah I don't want to fight him he is washed up how would people react? He would most likely be washed up but that is not how people would react to the situation.
    Well even if Wlad said. It wouldn't take away the fact that he is the real/lineal current HW champ.

    While Lennox would be a contender.

    It just wont.

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      #52
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      Well even if Wlad said. It wouldn't take away the fact that he is the real/lineal current HW champ.

      While Lennox would be a contender.

      It just wont.
      A true king would never let another man have a claim on his throne like that.

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        #53
        Originally posted by The Gambler1981
        A true king would never let another man have a claim on his throne like that.
        Lennox wouldn't have a claim that is the point.

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          #54
          Originally posted by rican411
          I agree you have to beat Pac.
          We don't have to get in to why you live in the gay part of Miami, but can you elaborate on why Manny is the man to beat at 147?

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          • The Gambler1981
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            #55
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            Lennox wouldn't have a claim that is the point.
            He never got beat, so the guy who came after him could never really be the champ since the old champ never ogt his crown lifted.

            It has been a long time for Lennox but if he came back tomorrow people would want to see him fight Wlad solely on the fact that Lennox was the man before him.

            You can eventually become the man without destroying the old champ if the old champ never comes back a la Lennox but that **** takes time and even now people yearn for Lennox to come back and challenge Wlad and Vitali soley because who else is out there for them to see (even if the division was popping I think people would want that).

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              #56
              Originally posted by The Gambler1981
              He never got beat, so the guy who came after him could never really be the champ since the old champ never ogt his crown lifted.

              It has been a long time for Lennox but if he came back tomorrow people would want to see him fight Wlad solely on the fact that Lennox was the man before him.

              You can eventually become the man without destroying the old champ if the old champ never comes back a la Lennox but that **** takes time and even now people yearn for Lennox to come back and challenge Wlad and Vitali soley because who else is out there for them to see (even if the division was popping I think people would want that).


              Actually your thread is one of the reasons boxing is a frustrating sport.

              It reminds of when Vitali held the WBC belts hostage because of injuries then got awarded Champion emeritus.

              Wouldn't it be cool for other sports to choose when they play for a championship, rather than having to actually defend it at a certain date and time.


              Nah, that would be awful.

              In boxing, it seems like fighters have the luxury (if making enough money) of fighting once a year or so, and not being stripped though they seem to go after new champs much more aggressively nowadays but I think that's more about sanctioning fees than it is about defending belts in a timely manner,

              It also doesn't help that the belts don't mean as much.

              I know this is the state of affairs but I don't have to like it.

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                #57
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                Lennox wouldn't have a claim that is the point.
                I agree there should be some statute of limitations on proclaiming yourself the man after being inactive for a period of time.

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                • The Gambler1981
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by jreckoning
                  Actually your thread is one of the reasons boxing is a frustrating sport.

                  It reminds of when Vitali held the WBC belts hostage because of injuries then got awarded Champion emeritus.

                  Wouldn't it be cool for other sports to choose when they play for a championship, rather than having to actually defend it at a certain date and time.


                  Nah, that would be awful.

                  In boxing, it seems like fighters have the luxury (if making enough money) of fighting once a year or so, and not being stripped though they seem to go after new champs much more aggressively nowadays but I think that's more about sanctioning fees than it is about defending belts in a timely manner,

                  It also doesn't help that the belts don't mean as much.

                  I know this is the state of affairs but I don't have to like it.

                  It has always been like that though Dempsey held the belt hostage and that was 100 years agao almost.

                  That is just boxing, which does have the most frusterating championship structure this side of college football.

                  That is part of the reason i don't care about all the tiltes being out there because they get a lot more guys involved in the top end of the sport as opposed to back in the day when one man could freeze up one weightclass for a long time and not punk ass wieght classes 15 pound weight classes. That would have been sickening if you were Charlie Burley or any of the uncrowned fighters of yester year.

                  Still though that is part of the reason the champion is special because taking their crown is never an easy task and they will do everything to keep it (fair and unfair) but that does make taking the championship by force a special event.

                  I don't know how to make boxing better other than make it more worthwhile for the best to be fighting the best, because in no other sport is choice a much a part of it is in boxing but I think I would rather have it as it is currently with the exception that I wish there would be more fights overall

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                  • The Gambler1981
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                    #59
                    Lennox would be pushing it as he has been gone a long time, still though that status of being the man is very slow to fade.

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                      #60
                      Money Mayweather

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