posters on here argued with me last night that shane,margo had better resumes than

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margo lost to williams and shane..that doestn count for your resume..plus im not dis*****g his ww resume is better..this is margos first division and floyds 4th..just saying floyds ww resume is far from weak

His resume isn't weak, but damn it took that boy forever to fight anyone good in the last couple of years, with the retirement and all and the fighting once a year *****. The Henry Bruselles and Sharmba Mitchell fights just diminished Floyd's pre-2003 comp in my eyes.



I mean I think a loss can count more for a resume, than a never fought him, especially if it was a pretty good fight. Otherwise, we go into what if territory.

What if Floyd fought Paul Williams, or Miguel Cotto, or Sergio Martinez.


I gave Floyd full credit for Castillo, Chavez, and Corrales, and even Manfredy.

[The Gambler1981]

Shane's win against Oscar is the biggest win any of them had in terms of mass appeal.

In terms of dealing with killer Corrales had a more fearsome reputation, Oscar had a good rep but he already got the nod in close fight with Whitiker and Quartey (which most believe he lost). Heck I would say Cotto had a more fearsome reputation than that Oscar.

[infamous larryx]

Maybe you could argue that Shane does, but not Margarito. However, let's look at the facts.

Fact #1: Shane is a known steroid user. So what that tells us is that we don't really know how valid his career is. Yes some of you will say that he looked good even after been caught and being supposedly clean but I still think that his career should have a question mark. His a cheater. And I like Shane but let's not mix our emotions with facts, or objectivity goes out the window.

Fact #2: Margarito got caught with plaster. He's a proven, and known cheater to. Should I say more? His career should have a question mark to.

Has Floyd ever been caught cheating? Aside from cheating the fans out of a mega fight by ducking Manny Pacquiao he has never been found guilty of cheating another man within the ring. His record speaks for itself. He has conquered divisions, and solid champions. **** no shane and marg dont have a better resume. Maybe at WW you can try to make a case despite them being known cheaters, but overall NO!

wow...even floyds biggest haters have common sense

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wow...even floyds biggest haters have common sense

I'm not a Floyd hater. If anything I admire his skills within the ring. Doesn't change the fact that he is a ducker who is afraid of Pacquiao. Kind of bit.ch **** is that? If you're a fighter then fight and STFU. You didn't ask JMM for OST but you ask Pac?

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Floyd has the better resume easily..

Mosley may have the better win (hoya 1) but his resume is not deep at all

Margs has cotto.. i don't consider Clottey or Cintron as top fighters (who have they beat?)

[The Gambler1981]

His resume isn't weak, but damn it took that boy forever to fight anyone good in the last couple of years, with the retirement and all and the fighting once a year *****. The Henry Bruselles and Sharmba Mitchell fights just diminished Floyd's pre-2003 comp in my eyes.



I mean I think a loss can count more for a resume, than a never fought him, especially if it was a pretty good fight. Otherwise, we go into what if territory.

What if Floyd fought Paul Williams, or Miguel Cotto, or Sergio Martinez.


I gave Floyd full credit for Castillo, Chavez, and Corrales, and even Manfredy.

That was the 2005 argument about Floyd but that arugement has been stale for a while, the end of his run of 135 through the beginning of 147 (Mitchell) Floyd didn't really do alot (although I think N'Dou and Corrley were decent fighters) but starting with Judah he did pick it up a great deal over the previous years (atleast until he retired).

Floyd's drop off happeaned in the middle of his run but if you look at who he fought it picked up again after Mitchell, and to be honest it wasn't until recently that there was another bona fide great fighter in his weight class, there were good dudes but no one I am overly sad about him missing (aside from Manny if that never comes off).

It just sucks for Floyd that the promoter he wanted the least to do with has some good fighters in that class that he could have possibly fought, but hey thats business.

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floyd....seriously...who agrees with this??

i agree with this statement. spot on larry.

floyd resume is not goat like thats for sure

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I don't know man. Margs fought
Joshua Clottey
Miguel Cotto
Shane Mosley
Paul Williams
Sergio Martinez
now Manny Pacquiao as well as Cintron, Diaz and other guys when they were good.

I don't think Floyd comes near Margs in welterweight competition.



Everyone knows Baldo was a lineal joke since that division had a new lineal every two months...
Judah losing to Spinks, then beating him, Zab always grabbing defeat out of the jaws of victory.

I think they are fairly good wins.

But no way can you compare that with who Margs fought, which was a murderer's row of welters.

recent lineal 147 was passed around more than gorilla dog's mom when the navy is in port.

all started when forrest kept fighting mayorga's fight.

[The Gambler1981]

recent lineal 147 was passed around more than gorilla dog's mom when the navy is in port.

all started when forrest kept fighting mayorga's fight.

Mosley and Oscar were both part of that though so how does that effect their resume, also that shit ended with Floyd

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he was undefeated,p4p and a betting favorite to destroy floyd

Well Oscar was high in the P4P list also. And, was favorite to destroy Shane who many felt was too small coming up from LW and skipping 140.

So what is your point?

That version of Oscar>Corrales. Not taking away anything from Floyd win over Corrales cuz it was a great win. But, if you look at Oscar resume up to that point with Corrales is a no contest. Plus Oscar was in his prime. And, a sure fire HOF'er.

The Oscar win>The Corrales win.

However, overall body of work of Floyd>Shane. Just that Shane the better win.