Comments Thread For: Bradley on Khan-Maidana: Marcos Breaks His Glass Jaw!

[Dave Rado]

I don't see how Ortiz is overrated, but Maidana's not. Maidana's biggest win is Ortiz, and if Ortiz is overrated, considering he was winning the fight, it just makes me wonder how the hell anyone can put Maidana in the top 4. Especially since he lost to Kotelnik.

His loss to Kotelnik was very narrow and fairly controversial - it was widely regarded as a hometown decision. If he has enough skills to take someone with Kotelnik's defence and chin to the wire and to arguably beat him on points except on the official scorecards, as well as beating Ortiz, then he deserves his ranking, especially after Kotelnik's performance against Alexander. And he clearly beat Ortiz in that fight. After he was knocked-down, Ortiz tried to box and keep it on the outside, but couldn't keep Maidana off him, so those who say he only lost because he tried to mix it are wrong or at least are over-simplifying.

That said, Ortiz should certainly be ranked above the likes of Urango, IMO. I don't understand why he isn't in The Ring's top 10. But that will change when he beats Peterson.

[Rome-By-Ko]

U gotta be kidding. Round 1 was a draw but it could have gone to Maidana. Round 2 went to Ortiz by 2 KD's. Round 3 and 4 saw Ortiz out fight Maidana. It really wasn't until the END of round 5 Maidana started getting the upper hand. I assure u, Ortiz was winning.

All 3 judges had it 45 - 48. Numerically, it's impossible for Maidana to have 48 points on the judges scorecards by the end of the fight.



And many people felt Maidana beat Kotelnik, but many people also felt Kotelnik beat Maidana. That was close fight, not a robbery.

Look at it this way, Ortiz destroys Might Mike in 2 rounds, loses to Maidana in a fight he was winning. Then goes on to KO a tough vet in Antonio Diaz. KO Alatorre. Dominate a hesitant vet in Campbell. And KO a 3rd vet in Harris.

While Maidana loses to Kotelnik, lands a lucky shot against Ortiz, beats a hungry, yet unproven prospect in Cayo, and struggles in a life and death fight against Corley. So u got 4 KO's a loss and a dominant decision, against 2 KO's of unproven prospects, a loss, and an ugly decision.



Like I've said before, there's no problem placing Maidana ahead of Ortiz, but that is only BARELY. But to say Maidana is possibly ranked #2 in the division, while Ortiz doesn't even make top 5? We're talking Bradley, Khan, Kotelnik, Alexander, Ortiz, and Maidana as top in the division. If u were gonna rank u should have it Bradley, Khan, Alexander (barely ahead of Kotelnik), Kotelnik, Maidana (barely ahead of Ortiz), and Ortiz.

If ur gonna put Maidana any higher than #5 in the division, than Ortiz is right behind him. Truthfully Alexander is where he's at based purely off of potential.

I totally disagree with this post..Maidana clearly won the first rd I gave Ortiz the 2end rd and that was it..Maidana made Ortiz look like he was way out of his league..Maidana also had a very close lost to Kottie and KO'd Cayo and beat Chop Chop clearly..Nothing on Ortiz resume can come close to that,I don't care how many lay down fighters ya wanna name none were/are thought of to be a threat..

Alexander is where he is in the ranking(2 or 3)because he held two belts and beat top ranking Jr WW's,how can you say Alexander is there off of talent when he has beat Urango who was I believe 4th and Witter who was rank 6th or 7th in the Jr WW rankings??Ortiz has not beat a ranked opponent yet buddy,how is he anywhere close to the Bradley,Khan or Alexander rankings without beating a ranked opponent??Like I said Ortiz is overrated because of potential not because of accomplishment..

Look at it this way, Ortiz destroys Might Mike in 2 rounds, loses to Maidana in a fight he was winning. Then goes on to KO a tough vet in Antonio Diaz. KO Alatorre. Dominate a hesitant vet in Campbell. And KO a 3rd vet in Harris.
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This is not a better resume then Maidana's sorry fail again,this helps my point and totally makes yours look really bad..Not one ranked fighter out the bunch..Oh except Maidana lol..

[Rome-By-Ko]

His loss to Kotelnik was very narrow and fairly controversial - it was widely regarded as a hometown decision. If he has enough skills to take someone with Kotelnik's defence and chin to the wire and to arguably beat him on points except on the official scorecards, as well as beating Ortiz, then he deserves his ranking, especially after Kotelnik's performance against Alexander. And he clearly beat Ortiz in that fight. After he was knocked-down, Ortiz tried to box and keep it on the outside, but couldn't keep Maidana off him, so those who say he only lost because he tried to mix it are wrong or at least are over-simplifying.

That said, Ortiz should certainly be ranked above the likes of Urango, IMO. I don't understand why he isn't in The Ring's top 10. But that will change when he beats Peterson.

Dave agree with ya post except that Ortiz should be ranked above Urango a ex Belt holder and a guy who has proven him self against top fighters(win or lose)..He is not ranked in the ring because he is yet to beat an ranked opponent..To be a legend you have to beat a legend,and to be ranked you have to take somebody's spot..I agree if he beats Peterson he deserves to be ranked but nowhere near Maidana or the top 5 for that matter..

[LeadUppercut]

I agree completely. Honestly most posters think the best at 140 is Alexander and Bradley. I think it is Ortiz and the winner of Maidana vs Khan.

The best at 140 is Bradley, but Khan and Ortiz look to have the most potential in that division. Khan is further ahead than Ortiz, but both have questions to answer.

My favourite is Vic, but I suspect that Amir will be the goods if he can answer two little questions against Maidana.

I wasn't sure if Ortiz was ready yet, the two little questions that he has to answer are not as easy to address as the issues that Khan has to deal with. It is easier for Khan's handlers to identify and address the problems that Amir has to work on, and tell when he is ready - unless the glass jaw theory proves to be correct - than it is for Vic's people to get him up to world title level..... although Schaefer has given me the firm impression on two separate occasions now that they have addressed the problems that Vic faced against Maidana.

Only Vic can know for sure if he is ready to go back down to the well, but it sounds promising. I got him beating Maidana in a rematch, but I don't know yet if the best version of Ortiz could beat the best version of Khan.

Interesting to see what happens.

[LeadUppercut]

If I were Timothy I wouldnt talk about glass jaw cuz he dance with stars in round 1 against Holt

Yep, but who wouldnt after that ?

[LeadUppercut]

Been looking forward to this one for a while. I'm turning on the Khan issue. Since he's stepping up for us now, I'm actually rooting for him in this one. I'm still worried he'll collapse as soon as Maidana touches his chin with a serious power punch though. If by some chance he can take it, I'm anticipating he wins an easy decision. Look for a clinic by Khan, whether or not he makes it to the final bell. I don't see Maidana getting any rounds without dropping him.

That is almost exactly how I feel, except I think that Khan has improved hugely under Freddie and it is unlikely that he will get caught so easily, and the glass chin thing could be over-stated and a non-issue at 140.

[OptimusWolf]

i don't think the glass jaw was a 135 thing - Amir just has v poor punch resistance.

If he had a chin this division would be his. Imagine him peperring Bradley on the way in knowing that bradley couldn't hurt him. Would be a massacre.

[LeadUppercut]

i don't think the glass jaw was a 135 thing - Amir just has v poor punch resistance.

If he had a chin this division would be his. Imagine him peperring Bradley on the way in knowing that bradley couldn't hurt him. Would be a massacre.

He just got there, and who has walked through Bradley's punches ?

[Mr. Philadel]

WBO junior welterweight champion Timothy Bradley is scheduled for a junior welterweight unification with WBC king Devon Alexander on January 29. The WBA champion, Amir Khan, returns on December 11 against mandatory challenger Marcos Maidana. HBO is going to televise both fights. The network is going to push for the winners to face each other in a fight to establish the best boxer at 140-pounds.

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Timmy sounds angry .....it would be funny if Devon KHTFO....thats where his focus should be....I hope that lil e-beef they had on twitter aint got his panties all in bunch like this....if so, bwahahahahaha.....come on now Timmy.....is this the same dude who walks out to CHRISTIAN rap?!? ...WOW!!

[OptimusWolf]

He just got there, and who has walked through Bradley's punches ?

I don't follow - I said the division would be his - that's the future conditional.

Plenty of people have coped with Bradley's power....not sure what you're getting at there. The last guy he stopped was 3 years ago and all of that guys losses came by stoppage.

Bradley would get beaten by khan. The others in the division, including ortiz have a much better chance.