Was chavez better than paquiao at their prime!!

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  • BrushMyCage
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    #21
    chavez is a big fan of mropal

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    • Canelo Phresh
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      #22
      Originally posted by Doorian
      chavez is a big fan of mropal
      its really true pinoys would kill mr.opal or karceno if they got the chance. i didnt believe them but if you guys know em then its true.

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      • STRUGG
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        #23
        chavez would......scare b1tchweather though..........lol

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        • BennyST
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          #24
          Originally posted by puga
          you take out hoya, you take out morales , take out margarito and pac would still be 7 didvison , 4 lineal champion ,3 time foty, fighter of the decade......has chavez done any of those?
          Chavez has the longest undefeated streak in boxing's history and fought more championship rounds than any other fighter in history and more championship fights than anyone fighting today, and maybe in history (can't remember that one) at 37!!! title fights. Unified the lightweight and light welterweight divisions, fought more champions than anyone fighting today and held the P4P number spot for nearly a decade.

          He is considered among the very best ever at 130 and 140.

          Has Pacquiao done any of those?

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          • brotsador
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            #25
            brotsa

            Yes I do believe in evrywords you have said chavezjrmexico..and I do believe as well that you are a real maricon.....

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            • JDezi4
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              #26
              One on One Pac would win.
              Legacy, it's hard to say. But let it be known. Most, and that's a big number considering his record, MOST of Chavez's opponents were cap drivers and journeymen.

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              • BennyST
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                #27
                Originally posted by JDezi4
                One on One Pac would win.
                Legacy, it's hard to say. But let it be known. Most, and that's a big number considering his record, MOST of Chavez's opponents were cap drivers and journeymen.
                You should probably do yourself a favour instead of spouting stuff that you've just heard other people say, and go learn something about him and his record.

                Considering the amount of fights he had, the number of great champions he faced is mind blowing.

                He's faced more champions than Pacquiao has had championship fights.

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                • AFighter4U
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by BennyST
                  You should probably do yourself a favour instead of spouting stuff that you've just heard other people say, and go learn something about him and his record.

                  Considering the amount of fights he had, the number of great champions he faced is mind blowing.

                  He's faced more champions than Pacquiao has had championship fights.
                  The problem with comparing ATG's with today's current fighters is that its IMPOSSIBLE, literally for today's fighters to achieve what others in the past have NOT because of lack of skill, but simply because of the environment today.

                  Can you imagine Pac or Floyd or any other boxer fighting EVERY MONTH? How about every week?

                  Can't be done.

                  Every era have their greats and people should appreciate them in that context. Comparing their greatness by achievement is simply unfair to the fighters themselves.

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                  • BennyST
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by AFighter4U
                    The problem with comparing ATG's with today's current fighters is that its IMPOSSIBLE, literally for today's fighters to achieve what others in the past have NOT because of lack of skill, but simply because of the environment today.

                    Can you imagine Pac or Floyd or any other boxer fighting EVERY MONTH? How about every week?

                    Can't be done.

                    Every era have their greats and people should appreciate them in that context. Comparing their greatness by achievement is simply unfair to the fighters themselves.
                    What in the hell are you talking about? Chavez was still fighting when Pac was fighting for titles too. He stopped fighting at the same time Pac was fighting Barrera, Marquez, Morales etc.

                    Not exactly some huge difference in eras is it.

                    Toney fought nearly every month and was fighting every other month as a champion. A guy like Roberto Duran was still fighting as much as young prime champion fighters do when he was in his forties and fifties. He finished in fighting in the 00's too.

                    Chavez, Pac etc are basically from the same era with Chavez being in an earlier generation of it. They have fought at the same time, throughout the same years. When Pac was a young champion, Chavez was still fighting huge fights.

                    Maybe you missed something here, but during Chavez' time no one was fighting the amount of champions he was, no one had the same amount of title fights, no one had as many championship rounds and title fights.

                    That's why he's one of the greatest fighters ever. The amount of champions he fought in an era when most champions were picking and choosing is simply mind boggling.

                    That ridiculous and oft repeated mantra of those trying to look like they know something, when in fact they just don't, of Chavez and his 'taxi driver' resume is just foolish talk of ill informed, ignorant fan boys that don't know anything about other fighters apart from what they causally hear about the place. They'll talk of Lolo Ledwaba as a great fighter for Pac, and yet say that Chavez has nothing but Cab drivers? Please....there are about ten Ledwaba's on Chavez' resume among the HOFers and greater fighters and champions. That's what was so amazing about him. He fought more champions, more top, world rated title holders, than anyone else in the modern boxing era. Yes, he's a 'modern era' fighter, not an old school fighter from some long forgotten era.

                    Maybe you weren't watching boxing a few years ago, but he did only finish fighting about four/five years ago. Maybe that's the problem. Idiots like that guy talking about cab drivers obviously have only been watching boxing for about two months because they would remember all the big names he fought and also all the other names that were great champions of his day, which wasn't even that long ago....the Ledwaba's, the Margarito's, the Hatton's, the Larios' of his time.

                    People only remember the big names from his resume like Oscar, Whitaker, Tszyu, Rosario, Taylor etc because they don't know anything about boxing or because they are too young to remember any of them and don't care to learn. It's like in ten years when people will only remember Pac's opponents like Marquez, Barrera, Morales and Oscar. The rest will just become other guys he fought that aren't important even though today they are important because people have watched them fight and know them.

                    Pac and Chavez having a common opponent should tell you that some amazing difference in era does not really work in this instance. As I said before, Chavez fought more champions than Pac has had title fights, he had about the same number of title fights that Pac has knock outs, unified more divisions etc and it wasn't any difference in era that was the reason. He just did a hell of a lot more.
                    Last edited by BennyST; 10-31-2010, 05:47 AM.

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                    • JDezi4
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                      #30
                      Well, I still say Pac would KO him if they fought. I guess anything short of CHAVEZ IS WAY BETTER to u automatically means I think Pacquiao is better.

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